C100: Tokina 11-20mm vs Tokina 11-16mm?

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michasacuer

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Im thinking about this two lenses. Which one is better? I will be using it on steadicam (with C100 Mark I) and i want to have working DAF with it too.

Thanks for help!
 
I've used both, and they're pretty much identical aside from the focal range. You'll be able to find the 11-16 for a bit cheaper. I own the 11-16 and use it frequently in tight spaces, like cars. I own another lens that covers 17-50mm, so for me the 11-16 was all that was needed.
 
do you think if one was buying into lenses coming from not having any, that extra 4mm is worth it? regardless of focal range covered, i would think anything that keeps you from switching lenses as often would be a plus.
 
You will need somebody to speak to using the Tokina lenses with DPAF. The Tokina focus drive is pretty old technology. It's loud and slow.

Regarding the focal range, I think the extra 4mm makes the 11-20 quite a bit more useful. For me, 11-16 was purely used for effects or architecture. With 11-20, I now have a lens that I can use for most wide angle needs, including shots with people that don't look overly distorted. The only downside is the 82mm filter size. Also, those extra few mm can be used on full frame without much compromise.
 
but isnt the flipside that when youre that wide focus wont be much of an issue anyway so the af is far less important?
 
DPAF works fine on my Tokina 11-16. If I was buying today I'd probably get the 11-20. I may get it anyway. I'm curious how it is optically compared to the 11-16.
 
In my experience the 11-20mm has less flare, is quite sharp (they both are) but gets softer around 20mm. Ugly bokeh. Annoying 82mm filter threads but almost no vignetting with a 77mm step down ring.

14-20mm f2 coming soon, might be pretty cool.

Haven't used either with DPAF.
 
Are you saying just the 11-20 has ugly bokeh or both the 11-20 and 11-16 have ugly bokeh?

I suppose not all that much of an issue in any case since the depth of field (and thus noticeable bokeh) is pretty deep at such a wide focal length.
 
Eric Coughlin said:
Are you saying just the 11-20 has ugly bokeh or both the 11-20 and 11-16 have ugly bokeh?

I suppose not all that much of an issue in any case since the depth of field (and thus noticeable bokeh) is pretty deep at such a wide focal length.
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I think the 11-20mm is a bit worse. Not really a deal breaker at such a wide focal length but at 20mm f2.8 it's visible.
 
You probably want a 2.8 lens but if speed is not the primary aim, the Canon 10-18 is great for car interiors. For a cheap lens, it looks great and the VR is pretty nice too. Of course, DPAF is perfect on it as well.
 
The 11-16mm covers a bit more of a full-frame sensor. It's usable at 14-15mm. The 11-20mm vignettes on full-frame up until 16mm or so. Not a huge deal, and not that these lenses are made for full-frame, but the 11-16mm is a little wider in a pinch if that's your thing. On the C100, the extra 4mm is nice to have for not that much more money.
 
I was faced with this dilemma a few months ago. Ended up buying an 11-16mm on eBay for ~$350 in good condition. Like others have said, the extra 4mm is nice for not much more money but if you can find an 11-16 used like I did, I'd snag it. I will say that after using this lens, I'm surprised I didn't buy this sooner.

I actually just went on eBay right now and found this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tokina-11-1...192320?hash=item4d3f486ac0:g:60UAAOSwPc9Wugdw
 
If you can spare a stop, the Tokina 12-28 f4 is a pretty great focal range. You lose 1mm on the wide end but gain 12mm on the long. That's perfect for indoors. And the lens is decently sharp. The AF is quieter than the 11-16, but I haven't tried the DPAF since I have a mki. I pair it with a Canon 17-55 and virtually never need anything else on many jobs.
 
I've owned the 11-16 f/2.8 mk I and mk II, both are great and very lightweight for being so fast. Since you're talking for steadicam, you might be interested to know that the Sigma 24-60mm f/2.8 (no longer in production) is within about 1% of the size and weight of the Tokina 11-16 (at least when it's on the wide end), which makes it AWESOME for situations where you're changing lenses on a balanced rig. Just a little bonus.
 
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