Kindredmachine
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Yep, very true. I have once to use any zoom during record with the Af-100. Motion is better achieved through track dollies and sliders anyway.
Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 AF100 Zoom Test
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Yep, very true. I have once to use any zoom during record with the Af-100. Motion is better achieved through track dollies and sliders anyway.
OKCPicker
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So, the Tokina 11-16 requires what adapter exactly? I have a Fotodiox for my Nikons, will that work?
Matt smith
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Mine just arrived, you need to have an adapter that can control aperture as the lens doesn't have manual control
Robert Sharpe
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I was looking at the Nikkor 17-35 as a variable prime, and as a wide angle solution (I only have a 50mm [=100mm on AF100] now) and was wondering if this lens would be wide enough.
So far I've only been shooting on 16mm film (and an HVX200) and in my last project we mostly used a 16mm and 25mm lens. So Shooter would you recommend the 17-35 as a wide angle solution, or should I try and go wider (with a M43 lens)?
Thanks
Shooter
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It is certainly wide enough for my purposes. If you are looking for a "bendy" wide angle lens look. This may not be it.
To me its a cinematic wide lens ( ie not bendy / distorted). It does have great "perspective" though.
Everything else about the lens is fantastic ( considering its not a cine lens). Its close focussing ability is legend.
To me its a cinematic wide lens ( ie not bendy / distorted). It does have great "perspective" though.
Everything else about the lens is fantastic ( considering its not a cine lens). Its close focussing ability is legend.
ryancglover
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No offence, but I think this additude is a bit silly. I'd rather watch a film made with courage and honesty by someone that is 'un-initiated' then watch some expertly made generic bore... but that discussion is for another thread...
The 11-16 is a great lens for the AF100 for sure and if you want the most professional solution, you could always try the Duclos PL version
... it looks slick!
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Robert Sharpe
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Excellent! I'm not looking for the distorted look, I want a cinematic straight line look. Thank you for the reply 
Rick Burnett
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I own the Tokina 11-16 as well and it is a great lens and very smooth zoom. Not a huge throw, but given it is such a wide lens with such a short focal range, I too find it makes more sense to just dolly shots with it. I've put it on my AF100 and have been happy with the results (although I am using a dumb adapter as well).
The focus ring is also VERY smooth, but its funny as the order of the focus and zoom is opposite ALL other lenses I own, so I get confused when I use it and grab the wrong one.
On the AF100 I found the perspective distortion to not be horribly bad. It is slightly better than the 7D since the width of the frame is a bit smaller, it crops out a bit of the more extreme edge perspective distortion. I use this lens a lot in situations where the set is tight. I actually find I like it better than the canon 10-22 as well.
The focus ring is also VERY smooth, but its funny as the order of the focus and zoom is opposite ALL other lenses I own, so I get confused when I use it and grab the wrong one.
On the AF100 I found the perspective distortion to not be horribly bad. It is slightly better than the 7D since the width of the frame is a bit smaller, it crops out a bit of the more extreme edge perspective distortion. I use this lens a lot in situations where the set is tight. I actually find I like it better than the canon 10-22 as well.
ScottNelson
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My thanks to MattG, RyanG, Jarek, Brian, SteveK and RickB for keeping this thread on track.
The 11-16, with the 4/3 crop factor, is not a 'bendy', 'distorted' perspective lens. It exhibits the characteristics of a 20-22mm still camera lens and I like the look. If you want really wide, get a Lumix 7-14 or a Zuiko 8mm fisheye.
I take 'un-initiated' as a compliment - it's all about trying something new and not being satisfied with a tried and true 'cinematic' look.
The whole idea of the AF100 is to experiment with your own glass and I'd like to believe that there is no right or wrong and to describe someone's work as 'rubbish' is an arrogant statement and an insult to all those willing to try something new.
The short clip on Vimeo has generated nearly 500 hits and resulted in dozens of PM's and direct e.mails by viewers around the world eager to ask questions and to offer opinions.
I've been shooting for over 45 years and am proud to be un-initiated and not afraid to try something new, whether it's a walking-in dolly move, a slide from side to side or combining a pull with either of the above.
The AF100 is our chance to expand the definition of 'cinematic' with the hundreds of lenses available and not be afraid to try something different and most importantly, not judge others based on one's narrow view of what constitutes 'cinematic'.
Many thanks,
Scott Nelson
The 11-16, with the 4/3 crop factor, is not a 'bendy', 'distorted' perspective lens. It exhibits the characteristics of a 20-22mm still camera lens and I like the look. If you want really wide, get a Lumix 7-14 or a Zuiko 8mm fisheye.
I take 'un-initiated' as a compliment - it's all about trying something new and not being satisfied with a tried and true 'cinematic' look.
The whole idea of the AF100 is to experiment with your own glass and I'd like to believe that there is no right or wrong and to describe someone's work as 'rubbish' is an arrogant statement and an insult to all those willing to try something new.
The short clip on Vimeo has generated nearly 500 hits and resulted in dozens of PM's and direct e.mails by viewers around the world eager to ask questions and to offer opinions.
I've been shooting for over 45 years and am proud to be un-initiated and not afraid to try something new, whether it's a walking-in dolly move, a slide from side to side or combining a pull with either of the above.
The AF100 is our chance to expand the definition of 'cinematic' with the hundreds of lenses available and not be afraid to try something different and most importantly, not judge others based on one's narrow view of what constitutes 'cinematic'.
Many thanks,
Scott Nelson
Shooter
Veteran
My comment re "un -initated" was not a personal comment on any one. It was both a comment and a warning.
It is a fact that DSLRs and now the AF100 has introduced "new" people into motion picture work. ( the O.P not included )
The pitch on the DSLRs was basically " now you too can shoot motion pictures" and of course that is absolutely true and doable.
What was also true and remains a fact... is that the short comings of a still camera ( and or most still camera lenses) have massive well documented short comings when it comes to shooting motion pictures. Doesnt mean you cant use them. and get awesome reults.. but the un initiated need to understand there is a difference whaen you make a choice for your lenses..
My initial comment was about O.P "smooth action" zoom test. (If anyone else saw this zoom as "smooth or useable" ...say so now.)
but: The lens tested seems to be an excellent variable prime. To me..it aint a "zoom" for motion picture cameras. I actually wonder why they are even called "zooms" on still cameras !
It is a fact that DSLRs and now the AF100 has introduced "new" people into motion picture work. ( the O.P not included )
The pitch on the DSLRs was basically " now you too can shoot motion pictures" and of course that is absolutely true and doable.
What was also true and remains a fact... is that the short comings of a still camera ( and or most still camera lenses) have massive well documented short comings when it comes to shooting motion pictures. Doesnt mean you cant use them. and get awesome reults.. but the un initiated need to understand there is a difference whaen you make a choice for your lenses..
My initial comment was about O.P "smooth action" zoom test. (If anyone else saw this zoom as "smooth or useable" ...say so now.)
but: The lens tested seems to be an excellent variable prime. To me..it aint a "zoom" for motion picture cameras. I actually wonder why they are even called "zooms" on still cameras !
David W. Jones
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The Nikon 14-24mm is very sharp.
Petros Kolyvas
Well-known member
It was used on a shoot a couple of days ago with our AF100. Very sharp, director loved it.
The photo is not particularly good, but there it is.
We still plan on getting a Tokina 11-16. The 14-24 was rented.