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I think Hendosan's initial point was a good one - That DSLR only shooting can be problematic in situations like the OP's. Where he had to get a shot that falls outside the DSLR strong area.
By now we all know just how good the DSLRs can be, esp on narrative work where you can set up your shots and test for issues. I personally think every DSLR shooter should have a small sensor camcorder on hand for taking care of shots that don't work....shots that are soft, have aliasing, etc.
Like someone said earlier: Even the higher end consumer cams handle deep focus shots beautifully. (These cameras have gotten pretty amazing while the large sensor revolution had our attention)
The poor man's AF100/F3/FS100 is a DSLR and a normal camcorder.
 
hendosan said:
Took the words right out of my mouth. Right tool for the right job.
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Show me 1 film shot on an HMC40 that looks better than something on a DSLR. No one is arguing resolution or sharpness . The Hmc40 has many many drawbacks that simply would not work. I would rather have a "softer" image than a camera I could not use without lights and a team. Dslrs get a lot of bashing and I gladly remind and show people the amazing projects shot on them that would be simply impossible with standard camcorders ESPECIALLY something like an HMC40. WHile this debate can go on forever you must realize this is only a reply to what HENDOSAN said.

A dslr might not be the best option for wide architectural shots, but I have seen examples of great work. Furthermore you simply cannot say that the OP provided the best image quality with his footage.
 
pulpfiction007 said:
I think Hendosan's initial point was a good one - That DSLR only shooting can be problematic in situations like the OP's. Where he had to get a shot that falls outside the DSLR strong area.
By now we all know just how good the DSLRs can be, esp on narrative work where you can set up your shots and test for issues. I personally think every DSLR shooter should have a small sensor camcorder on hand for taking care of shots that don't work....shots that are soft, have aliasing, etc.
Like someone said earlier: Even the higher end consumer cams handle deep focus shots beautifully. (These cameras have gotten pretty amazing while the large sensor revolution had our attention)
The poor man's AF100/F3/FS100 is a DSLR and a normal camcorder.
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This is why i have just pick up a GH1 to use with 2 7d's
 
vision_filmz said:
Show me 1 film shot on an HMC40 that looks better than something on a DSLR. No one is arguing resolution or sharpness . The Hmc40 has many many drawbacks that simply would not work. I would rather have a "softer" image than a camera I could not use without lights and a team. Dslrs get a lot of bashing and I gladly remind and show people the amazing projects shot on them that would be simply impossible with standard camcorders ESPECIALLY something like an HMC40. WHile this debate can go on forever you must realize this is only a reply to what HENDOSAN said.

A dslr might not be the best option for wide architectural shots, but I have seen examples of great work. Furthermore you simply cannot say that the OP provided the best image quality with his footage.
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Nobody is bashing DSLR's, I think all of us in this thread own them. You sound kind of insufferable dude. Smoke some weed or something.
 
vision_filmz said:
Show me 1 film shot on an HMC40 that looks better than something on a DSLR. No one is arguing resolution or sharpness . The Hmc40 has many many drawbacks that simply would not work. I would rather have a "softer" image than a camera I could not use without lights and a team. Dslrs get a lot of bashing and I gladly remind and show people the amazing projects shot on them that would be simply impossible with standard camcorders ESPECIALLY something like an HMC40. WHile this debate can go on forever you must realize this is only a reply to what HENDOSAN said.

A dslr might not be the best option for wide architectural shots, but I have seen examples of great work. Furthermore you simply cannot say that the OP provided the best image quality with his footage.
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i can understand stating your opinion, but whats the point in fighting over it?
 
vision_filmz said:
Show me 1 film shot on an HMC40 that looks better than something on a DSLR. No one is arguing resolution or sharpness . The Hmc40 has many many drawbacks that simply would not work. I would rather have a "softer" image than a camera I could not use without lights and a team. Dslrs get a lot of bashing and I gladly remind and show people the amazing projects shot on them that would be simply impossible with standard camcorders ESPECIALLY something like an HMC40. WHile this debate can go on forever you must realize this is only a reply to what HENDOSAN said.

A dslr might not be the best option for wide architectural shots, but I have seen examples of great work. Furthermore you simply cannot say that the OP provided the best image quality with his footage.
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Uhhh- It's not DSLR bashing at all...I think many of us have just said that using BOTH a small sensor camcorder AND a DSLR gives you the best of both worlds. The DSLR will be great for many situations and the camcorder for others. I like having both for just that reason.
 
I just shot a deep depth of field interview with this lens and a 60D with tons of crap in the frame. The interview was over these huge pieces of art, so he wanted me to frame it like that. Anyways, I had the exact same problem. It's the codec. Not happy, but whatever.
 
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