C300: to go lens for C300Mark2 24/70?

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I just got my C300Mark2 and want to get rid of my 14-105, I am not very happy with the sharpness of the lens, never was.
I am testing the 24-70/2,8 II EF at the moment, I have the idea that it's a lot better.

What would your suggestions be or what do You use?

Needs to be AF and suitable for 4K
 
I bought the Canon 24-70 f/2.8 II a few weeks ago thinking the same thing; I want a sharper zoom lens to use on my nice 4K camera. With that said, I'm definitely keeping the 24-105 for run n gun work, and will use the 24-70 for slower paced work where I want better image quality. The 24-105 doesn't really sell for all that much since in a kit it's only $500 extra, so it's not worth losing the versatility of it for just a few hundred bucks.
 
^I feel the same about the 18-135 in the C100/II kit. $200? I'll use it until I drop it, it works fine enough. Not really worth much more on the used market anyway.
 
I have the 15 mm Carl Zeiss on my photocamera, I allways missed that wide-angle on my filmcamera, as a photographer I hate bad lenses so I decided to get the 11-24, only did a simple test shot on the Movi M10 with it, with the C300MKII, result was very clear.
 
Well, back here to re-post because the Canon 11-24mm is now in my bag. I have enough work now that could call for this lens and I remembered this thread from 8 months back. It's one incredible piece of kit on the C100MKII.
 
control4userguy said:
Well, back here to re-post because the Canon 11-24mm is now in my bag. I have enough work now that could call for this lens and I remembered this thread from 8 months back. It's one incredible piece of kit on the C100MKII.
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What are the advantages of having the 11-24 f/4L versus a Tokina 11-20 f/2.8 or even the Canon 10-20 STM lens? I rarely do wide angle photography on a full frame camera, so I'm trying to figure out if there is an advantage outside of that use.
 
If you like/need wide, the Canon 10-18 STM IS, while slow, is pretty good bang for buck. If you are shooting exteriors, it's great. If you are on interiors, for most situations, it's slower than you would like. The 18-135 STM IS is my workhorse zoom, a perfect focal length range for my work. I loathe the 24-105, it's really a crap lens with huge amounts of distortion, it's not wide enough for my handheld work and it is expensive for what it is. I have a client who has one so I use it sometimes on their camera and I am distinctly unimpressed with it, my flimsy 18-135 STM IS is better in every way except build quality.
 
cpreston said:
What are the advantages of having the 11-24 f/4L versus a Tokina 11-20 f/2.8 or even the Canon 10-20 STM lens? I rarely do wide angle photography on a full frame camera, so I'm trying to figure out if there is an advantage outside of that use.
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Who are you asking? For me, it was the fact that it's a FF lens. I shoot stills and video. I really don't think pulling in these three lenses into a comparison, outside of maybe focal length characteristics is all that useful. You could, but then there is the subset of variables that only apply to the individual behind the camera.
 
control4userguy said:
Who are you asking? For me, it was the fact that it's a FF lens. I shoot stills and video. I really don't think pulling in these three lenses into a comparison, outside of maybe focal length characteristics is all that useful. You could, but then there is the subset of variables that only apply to the individual behind the camera.
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Yes, I was asking you. I was wondering if you noticed any advantages to using the 11-24 f/4L on a C100/C300 that would make it worth using over the other non full frame lenses. Obviously, nothing matches the 11-24 on a full frame, but I was wondering if there were any advantages on a crop frame.
 
By the way, the new version of the 18-135mm, while maybe isn't much different optically, just feels slightly better. Maybe it's just because it doesn't have that silver ring anymore. :-O

I keep it on the C300II pretty much all the time for run 'n gun doc work, along side the 10-18mm. The 24-105mm still lives on my C100, but on the heavier C300II it's nice to keep a lighter lens on it.

Here's a thing shot exclusively on the 18-135mm and 10-18mm a few weeks ago, on the C300II, alongside some Phantom 2 aerials. https://ksr-video.imgix.net/assets/012/843/416/9559e8092e098af92e326a933612054e_h264_high.mp4
 
slavikb said:
By the way, the new version of the 18-135mm, while maybe isn't much different optically, just feels slightly better. Maybe it's just because it doesn't have that silver ring anymore. :-O

I keep it on the C300II pretty much all the time for run 'n gun doc work, along side the 10-18mm. The 24-105mm still lives on my C100, but on the heavier C300II it's nice to keep a lighter lens on it.

Here's a thing shot exclusively on the 18-135mm and 10-18mm a few weeks ago, on the C300II, alongside some Phantom 2 aerials. https://ksr-video.imgix.net/assets/012/843/416/9559e8092e098af92e326a933612054e_h264_high.mp4
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Nice work man! Makes me really want go fishing and stand in a beautiful river.
 
I'd consider the Tamron 24-70 f2.8 VC. Really solid, sharp lens, very close if not identical in quality to the Canon 24-70 f2.8, and the Tamron has the added benefit of image stabilization. And it's 700 or 800 dollars cheaper. I will say that the autofocus went out on mine a few weeks ago, and I had to mail it in for repairs, but up til then it was working like a champ. 6 year warranty from Tamron.
 
17-55 2.8 IS is has been my go to wide-medium run-n-gun lens for the C300 for over 4 years. Only downside is the build quality. Have sold the old and bought new 3 times now. I switch to the Sigma 18-35 1.8 when I need that extra stop.
 
sort of related but how do you guys think 17-55 functions as your WIDE lens as well? is 17 wide enough on a the smaller sensor? I know several of my clients/colleagues have a 14mm Rokinon prime as their wide or the Tokina 11-16, so that makes me think 17 is a little "tight" for a wide.
 
Josh Bass said:
sort of related but how do you guys think 17-55 functions as your WIDE lens as well? is 17 wide enough on a the smaller sensor? I know several of my clients/colleagues have a 14mm Rokinon prime as their wide or the Tokina 11-16, so that makes me think 17 is a little "tight" for a wide.
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Personally, unless I am shooting inside a car or a really tight space, the 18mm end of the 18-135 STM IS is plenty wide on S35. I have done shots running after a subject who was catching a bus, hundreds of handheld shots, all with the 18-135 STM IS at 18mm. I have the 10-18 STM IS and I rarely use it, simply because it distorts people's features on the outer 30-40% of the FOV. Superwide lenses are not flattering to faces at all. 18mm = 27mm on a FF35 mm equivalent FOV, that's as wide as I would go with still photography for shooting normal shots with people.

Of course, if you need a wide FOV, you need it. I am developing production design and lighting for a TV show that I am shooting a sizzle for and we are at the stage where we are determining "the look" of the show. It will involve a lot of handheld work, following people in and out of cars and buildings. We will be shooting a lot of the in-car stuff with three Go Pros, pretty much the same way the talent is shot on "Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee" so I am debating if I want to carry that wider Go Pro aesthetic outside of the car shots. We will obviously shoot with a variety of lenses and will probably shoot some interviews on long lenses but the primary look of the show is leaning toward wide, possibly really wide. But that's just for this show. We kind of want to show the characters environments more than normal because the show is about a neighborhood as well as the characters who live there. Still debating about if this is the look that will work. But in regards to lenses and FOV, I think the 17-55 is a good way to go if you need a faster standard lens, although you will become frustrated that it doesn't zoom very far.
 
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