Thoughts on the new Canon C70 from S1H owners?

[DustinSchmidt]

Hi all. I'm looking for feedback and thoughts from S1H owners on how they feel that camera stacks up against the newly announced Canon C70. Yes, I know the C70 is not shipping at the moment, so you'd just be comparing to a spec sheet.

I'm interested in how you use your S1H, if there's anything you feel it's lacking that the C70 does better. We all know what some of those things probably are (autofocus, 120fps, etc.)

I've been looking seriously at purchasing an S1H but the C70 has given me pause. I've shot in the past with the GH4 and the GH5 and loved those cameras. I've also shot extensively with the Canon C200, C300 Mk II and III and also the C500 Mk II and loved those cameras for different reasons.

I have all canon glass at the moment, so I'd be adapting on the S1H and not looking to buy any L mount glass. Our agency currently owns a C300 Mark III as our A cam and I know the C70 would match up the most easily, but that's not as much of a concern to me since I've cut anything from a Fuji XT3 to a Canon EOS R with our A cam and clients can't tell the slight differences.

I also shoot photos, so although we're not replacing our EOS R anytime soon, it would be nice to have a hybrid that does both, although not a dealbreaker.

 

[Guest]

Hi all. I'm looking for feedback and thoughts from S1H owners on how they feel that camera stacks up against the newly announced Canon C70. Yes, I know the C70 is not shipping at the moment, so you'd just be comparing to a spec sheet.

I'm interested in how you use your S1H, if there's anything you feel it's lacking that the C70 does better. We all know what some of those things probably are (autofocus, 120fps, etc.)

I've been looking seriously at purchasing an S1H but the C70 has given me pause. I've shot in the past with the GH4 and the GH5 and loved those cameras. I've also shot extensively with the Canon C200, C300 Mk II and III and also the C500 Mk II and loved those cameras for different reasons.

I have all canon glass at the moment, so I'd be adapting on the S1H and not looking to buy any L mount glass. Our agency currently owns a C300 Mark III as our A cam and I know the C70 would match up the most easily, but that's not as much of a concern to me since I've cut anything from a Fuji XT3 to a Canon EOS R with our A cam and clients can't tell the slight differences.

I also shoot photos, so although we're not replacing our EOS R anytime soon, it would be nice to have a hybrid that does both, although not a dealbreaker.

S1H:
- Full frame 6K and s35 4K
- ProRes Raw is external, I think, so getting that requires an Atmos or something
- Perhaps the best built in EVF to ever exist on a stills camera, and that allows for more more discreet shooting in a very small all in one.
- a little small in the hand, but has a battery grip option. Options are nice.
- should fit nice on Roninc S type gimbals
- internal batteries

C70
- s35 4K but DGO
- raw?
- bigger in the hand
- vertical mounting points
- no built in EVF
- Canon IQ, which ain't anything if you are used to Panny's look.
- external batteries


Audio for the S1H is controlled externally on the add-on, but the C70 has audio controls built in... albeit behind the floppy screen, but they are there. Horses for course on the audio front.

Seems a close match. From an outsiders perspective, without any first hand experience, I like the C70 better. But the S1H is nearly a perfect camera.

 

[Peter C.]

I just read a review.
Cons:
No internal raw or ProRes. Unclear whether hdmi out is clean raw to external recorder. Wouldn't be surprised if you can't.
Expensive
No view finder
2x crop at 180fps

Pros
DGO
Autofocus
built in ND
mini xlrs (rather have full size but understandable with small form factor)

The sensor size could be seen as a pro or con.

While I don't shoot in raw/prores, it's a bit odd because it's targeted cinema buyer would. It's an interesting offering, too expensive and not the type of camera I need for my work.