Thick lines and thin lines?

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Shacke

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What exactly are they?

What is the difference between both and

When do you need either?

Is there something in between?

Any info will be very much appreciated.

Thanks people.
 
Thanks for the reply, I have Barry's book/dvd but it recommends thin for going out to NTSC TV but I am in PAL land and wonder if that makes a difference.

I'm doing music videos which will be shown on TV, so does that mean thin is best?

I was just wondering if there was a rule of thumb?
 
If broadcasting on a television, THICK or MID is usually preferred. THIN is for when you know your footage is going to be shown on a progressive-scan display (such as a plasma or LCD TV, a computer monitor, etc).
 
With THIN mode you can avoid flickering on an interlaced TV set.

However, I must say I shoot in THIN mode and have never seen flickering on my PAL TV set.

It's better to shoot in THIN mode because you get more resolution and if you see any flickering you can always solve it in post.
 
Thanks Kuock, it seems most people use thin which on my PAL camera is scene 6. I think I will do the same.

However, I assume that scene 6 (cine) on PAL is same as 24A? I have heard that there are limitations in editng 24A, i.e. that you need certain software versions. Would you know if this is the same for the PAL scene 6?
 
Kuock, don't you mean that with THICK mode you can avoid flickering? :)

Shacke, Scene 6 is like Scene 5 - 25P. There's no 24PA or similar mode on the PAL version as it's not needed.
 
NBCshooter said:
I ALWAYS shoot in "thin" mode. I don't care about flicker. More resolution, good.
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Exactly my thoughts on the issue. I can always put a slight blur in post if I absolutely need it, but I can't magically add resolution.
 
Thanks Martin :)

I did mean exactly that.

Shacke, the only difference between 5 and 6 Scenes is that 5 operates with THICK mode by default and 6 operates with THIN by default. However, you may change these settings in the way you want (i.e. you may set Scene 5 with THIN mode and Scene 6 with THICK mode)

25P has nothing to do with 24P. You won't have any problem when editing 25P.
 
Ehhh, I haven't really messed with it much. However, from the sounds of it, it is all personal choice. However, it sounds like more pro's than con's for shooting thin. non-linear editing is a great tool, just like the dvx100ap. Use them both to your needs.

On the flip side, I will have to do my own experimentation on this; I'll post a reply back on my findings and perhaps some images.--When I get around to it, ehh, lots to do. Hehehe.
 
I hear lots about people loving either thick or thin, but is there anybody out there that prefers somewhere in the middle range? I'm not saying I'm one of them, because I'm still experimenting to figure out what I like/need more, but I'm curious.
 
If your in PAL world I'd use thin regardless of where the footage is going. Whenever I've asked pro DOP's they have all said THIN.
Also if you want a bit of a softer image, do it it with filters not in post.
 
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