FX6: The Sony ILME-FX6V Owners Club

broughtonfilm said:
This is madness. How in a world do I keep center marker, aspect marker on the camera's LCD monitor while getting rid of all the other display info? As soon as I press "Display" everything disappears together with the crosshairs and aspect ratio masks. Is it really not possible to keep just these??
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You have two options. You can setup an ALL FILE with the two different sets of display settings selected (so you can jump between in the 20-odd seconds it takes to load an ALL FILE. Or you can what I did, and lose a $1000 upgrading your Gratical Eye EVF, to the fractionally different Kameleon EVF, because it has the option of opaque mattes for framing (instead of just framelines).

I tried the former very briefly, before being too fed up with it, and taking the financial hit to get that ONE monitoring feature.
 
Grug said:
You have two options. You can setup an ALL FILE with the two different sets of display settings selected (so you can jump between in the 20-odd seconds it takes to load an ALL FILE. Or you can what I did, and lose a $1000 upgrading your Gratical Eye EVF, to the fractionally different Kameleon EVF, because it has the option of opaque mattes for framing (instead of just framelines).

I tried the former very briefly, before being too fed up with it, and taking the financial hit to get that ONE monitoring feature.
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To be honest, when I saw the notification about the reply, I assumed that you replied to let me know that this issue had been fixed with a firmware update OR that there was a menu setting I wasn't aware of that fixed it. FS7 could do it right from the release date, I don't understand why it's implemented so badly in FX6. It's a dark humor to have to spend thousands of $$$$ just to get it.
 
Joshua Milligan said:
Has anyone been able to get the Rycote Lyre mic holder adaptor by jmone printed here in the US? I recently picked up a Sanken CS-M1 and want a better mic mount for it and feel like that could work well, but I'm not sure where or how to go about getting one made.
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I used https://www.jawstec.com/ to print my EVF loupe housing and they did excellent job. They don't have minimum quantity requirements.
 
Yeah.... I'm wondering where the other two "C" lens are. But then again the 16-35C is very expensive for a repack.
 
Apparently the new camera will be in the CineAlta line. Sony dropped a teaser for it a couple days ago:

 
ahalpert said:
Apparently the new camera will be in the CineAlta line. Sony dropped a teaser for it a couple days ago:

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Do you know if it is a new teaser, or the long promised modular upgrades to the Venice? Like new sensor block?
 
If it's the Mini Venice / F55 replacement the rumour-mill has been whispering about. I'll be moving on from my FX6 immediately.
 
Release date/time is Nov 15 11pm (Peking time)

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CineD brightened the teaser and compared the button arrangement to Venice. The dial in the lower right is slightly closer to the display. So, this will probably be a Venice 2 or a mini Venice? Some speculate it will record 8K

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Grug said:
If it's the Mini Venice / F55 replacement the rumour-mill has been whispering about. I'll be moving on from my FX6 immediately.
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lol Mark if that's the case, you would've owned the fx6 for one of the shortest amounts of time compared with most fx6 owners who will keep them as their workhorse for years.

Are we officially calling your quest "Cine Kaizen"?
 
rob norton said:
lol Mark if that's the case, you would've owned the fx6 for one of the shortest amounts of time compared with most fx6 owners who will keep them as their workhorse for years.

Are we officially calling your quest "Cine Kaizen"?
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Haha, maybe!

I think I’m just gettIng too old to want to put up with operational compromises on cameras (and the stresses those compromises add to my day-to-day).

I really wanted to be happy with the FX6 as a “good enough” camera, to do everything that doesn’t require renting in a Mini or Venice. And the pictures/specs/performance are all certainly acceptable on that front.

But having to rely on battery adapters and lens mount adapters, and swapping top handles when you need to feed it audio, and stupid filenaming and camera display info setups, and external recording to get 12-bit files. It just makes it too fiddly for a crotchety old-timer like me.

If I was solo-shooting with autofocus lenses and just shooting XAVC all the time, maybe it’d be fine. But that’s just not my world.
 
I've now had two occasions when AF just suddenly stopped recognising people and just grabbed focus towards infinity.
- Shot 1: Night Time Dinner Celebration. Was working just fine fine as the dinner guests were walking around (or when panning/zooming) with a box getting drawn around and focus switching between subjects in the frame. The camera was setup in the corner of the room with the 28-135 High Base, wide focal length and with auto iris (but F4ish most of the time). At one point (during the speeches) all of a sudden all the focus boxes disappeared from the OSD and the FX6 was focused on a background light. The speakers were maybe 5m away. Thankfully I was behind the camera at the time so could manually rack focus.
- Shot 2: Daytime memorial celebration. It was lightly raining and overcast. All was working as expected while panning around and zomming in/out on the crowd. It was initially fine while filming the speakers during the formal part, then focus boxes all disappeared and focus drifted out towards infinity. The speakers were under a tent so in even more shadow and had some highlights from the sky behind them. 28-135, low base with auto iris ranging around 5.6-8 and it was fairly wide to get both the memorial plaque and the speakers (who were again around 5m away) in frame. Again, just jumped into MF.

The commonality is low light and the fact they were both long static shots (you know how speeches can go on!). Any thoughts on the cause / how to mitigate?

Thanks
Nathan
 
Another thing I'd like to improve for these situations is a better sound package for capturing directional audio from the speakers into the FX6 over a distance of say 5m. I was capturing audio with both the inbuilt FX6 Stereo Mic and a Rode NTG-1 attached on Body but there were some quite speakers where it is just not good enough.

I was thinking some sort of small / inconspicuous wireless tabletop Mic (not LAV) to be able to plop down on a table / lectern to better capture the speakers in such situations that would ideally be recorded as a track on the FX6..... or is there a better way of doing this (and no, not a boom pole operator :) )
 
jmone said:
Any thoughts on the cause / how to mitigate?
Nathan
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It's kind of hard to offer any meaningful advice without being given any information about the camera's settings. Were you using "Face/Eye Only" or "Face/Eye Priority"? What were your other focus menu settings?
 
Hi Doug,

- AF Transition Speed: 4
- AF Subject Shift Sens: 3
- Focus Area: Flexible Spot
- Focus Area (AF-S): Flexible Spot
- Face / Eye Detection AF: Face/Eye Priority AF
- Push AF Mode: AF
- AF Assist: On

Thanks
Nathan
 
I would suggest using Face/Eye Only. That way if the camera loses track of the face(s) it will just stop focusing and remain focused at whatever point it was focused at when it lost the face -- rather than hunting for something else in the deep background. Chances are the person is still in the same general area, right? So it is better to just have focusing pause for a little bit until it picks up the face again and resumes tracking. As you have found, if the focus slips to some other object during Face/Eye Priority it will almost never come back to the face on its own.

Also, you might want to experiment using Wide for the focus area.
 
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