Mark Johnson
The Dude Abides
That's wonderful. It's the perfect score for your film and I love the fact that you could pull out the instrumental tracks to make it work exactly as you wanted.
"The Morning After" A sexy new horror film by Jeremy Poindexter
- Thread starter luster
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the bedroom lighting...
You guessed it. I placed the keylight (arri 1k open face) low to get the long shadows of early morning. I added some orange/yellow gel, and put a homemade cookie in front of it to get the shadow pattern.
There was also a bit of soft fill coming from a 500w china ball.
You guessed it. I placed the keylight (arri 1k open face) low to get the long shadows of early morning. I added some orange/yellow gel, and put a homemade cookie in front of it to get the shadow pattern.
There was also a bit of soft fill coming from a 500w china ball.
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Mark Johnson
The Dude Abides
People can change, Charli. Maybe I'll convince you to wear stilettos when we pick up our oscars someday.
Charli
cool little "title"
Mark - if I pick up an Oscar I'll be wearing a bullfighter's vested wear & hat
with those bullfighter's shoes, don't ask me why, just thought it would be cute
if made by the right designer - lol, I'm so not into long flowing gowns, hard to
believe all through grade school all I did was wear dresses.
So luster, what size are those shoes? Maybe I should borrow them - lol
with those bullfighter's shoes, don't ask me why, just thought it would be cute
if made by the right designer - lol, I'm so not into long flowing gowns, hard to
believe all through grade school all I did was wear dresses.
So luster, what size are those shoes? Maybe I should borrow them - lol
Mark Johnson
The Dude Abides
How about a simple short tight mini, then? LOL
Um, as attire or weaponry?
Charli: the shoes broke during the beating.
Don't forget that there is a lot more to film writing than dialogue. I fancy myself a writer too, but I believe that telling a story (exposition) though dialogue is actually one of the biggest copouts there is - except for maybe voiceover.
One of my goals for this film was to challenge the notion that voiceover is automatically bad. I used what I thought was a pretty clever device to make the voicevoer diagetic to the story, I was also very careful to not completely spell out the story through the voiceover. I went for subtlety and suggestion in the writing. I think in most cases, subtlety is one of the things that sets a great film apart from a crap film so that's what I strive for.
btw: I am indebted to you for your inspirational marketing advice.
Don't forget that there is a lot more to film writing than dialogue. I fancy myself a writer too, but I believe that telling a story (exposition) though dialogue is actually one of the biggest copouts there is - except for maybe voiceover.
One of my goals for this film was to challenge the notion that voiceover is automatically bad. I used what I thought was a pretty clever device to make the voicevoer diagetic to the story, I was also very careful to not completely spell out the story through the voiceover. I went for subtlety and suggestion in the writing. I think in most cases, subtlety is one of the things that sets a great film apart from a crap film so that's what I strive for.
btw: I am indebted to you for your inspirational marketing advice.
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CallaghanFilms
Veteran
luster said:
:huh: Not for nothing, but you make it sound like all dialogue is expository dialogue.
I agree with VO being a cop-out in most cases...but comparing it to dialogue in general?
WTF?!
There is such a concept as good, well-rounded, story-driving dialogue...however elusive it may sometimes seem.:huh:
I agree with VO being a cop-out in most cases...but comparing it to dialogue in general?
WTF?!
There is such a concept as good, well-rounded, story-driving dialogue...however elusive it may sometimes seem.:huh:
Sorry for the confusion. I'm in no way saying that all dialogue is bad or expository. What I was trying to say is that I think dialogue is the cheapest way to present exposition. I think the best writers continually try to get the exposition out in much more eloquent ways...ways that are so slick that you don't even notice them when you're watching the film.CallaghanFilms said:
For me, the challenge of film writing is in finding creative ways to SHOW the story rather then just telling it.
Here's something that I think is an interesting exercise: any time you have a story idea, ask yourself what medium the story would best be presented in: there are many options a novel, a play, a movie, etc. Think about what the advantages are of each medium, and you'll be surprised sometimes.
Mattykins
Cute Member
As promised, your review...I am pretty blunt, so don't take any of this as if I dislike you. Only expanding for improvement.
Alright, general story line, I was entirely lost. I won't lie, I had absolutly no idea what was going on. What I gathered from the film was that a girl went out, got drunk, then date raped, then she killed the guy. I think...unless there was something else I was missing. I think it is more of a 'rar, I hate you, I will kill you' movie and not a horror film. I mean you tried, so that was cool. I just really disliked the story line.
Filming wasn't all that bad. I kind of liked it. Granted it was odd. But the angles were not that bad. They were composed well I will say. my cpmplaint was more the editing that anything. There were some cuts that were just too short. Really jumpy almost. I mean, you have the time. It is a 6:00 min run time, so you should use it. Especially for more character development. Essentially we learned nothing about the lead character save she likes to party. Really we only learned about some girl through the answering machine. I really didn't make the association until the end. I see what you wanted to do, not quite sure if it was executed well though. Thats just my take on having the phone calls tell the story.
Sound: The levels were extreamly low. I needed to actually boost the volume quite a bit to hear any of it. The soundtrack was odd. It brought an odd sense of tranquility for a murder in progress. haha. But I am glad you filtered the telephone calls. Some people don't do that.
VFX: Was alright, I mean it was odd when she killed him. I am slightly confused as to why he would just lay there while being attacked. During the attack scene, there really wasn't any good sound effects. It was a slight thud. I would have expected more of a graphic representation of the attack. Thats just me.
COlor: I though was on the dark side. It might have been due to compression, but it seemed warm, yet a tad dark. Actually when I bring it back, she kinda looks orange.
So there is my review. I say use the entire time, character develpopment is key. Good luck on other projects.
And I watched it over several times and can't find the hidden message. Sorry
-Matty
Alright, general story line, I was entirely lost. I won't lie, I had absolutly no idea what was going on. What I gathered from the film was that a girl went out, got drunk, then date raped, then she killed the guy. I think...unless there was something else I was missing. I think it is more of a 'rar, I hate you, I will kill you' movie and not a horror film. I mean you tried, so that was cool. I just really disliked the story line.
Filming wasn't all that bad. I kind of liked it. Granted it was odd. But the angles were not that bad. They were composed well I will say. my cpmplaint was more the editing that anything. There were some cuts that were just too short. Really jumpy almost. I mean, you have the time. It is a 6:00 min run time, so you should use it. Especially for more character development. Essentially we learned nothing about the lead character save she likes to party. Really we only learned about some girl through the answering machine. I really didn't make the association until the end. I see what you wanted to do, not quite sure if it was executed well though. Thats just my take on having the phone calls tell the story.
Sound: The levels were extreamly low. I needed to actually boost the volume quite a bit to hear any of it. The soundtrack was odd. It brought an odd sense of tranquility for a murder in progress. haha. But I am glad you filtered the telephone calls. Some people don't do that.
VFX: Was alright, I mean it was odd when she killed him. I am slightly confused as to why he would just lay there while being attacked. During the attack scene, there really wasn't any good sound effects. It was a slight thud. I would have expected more of a graphic representation of the attack. Thats just me.
COlor: I though was on the dark side. It might have been due to compression, but it seemed warm, yet a tad dark. Actually when I bring it back, she kinda looks orange.
So there is my review. I say use the entire time, character develpopment is key. Good luck on other projects.
And I watched it over several times and can't find the hidden message. Sorry
-Matty
Mattykins
Cute Member
I'm 18. A younger film maker. I am really upset I never entered. Only reason was I didn't have a DVX. But I played the movie at least seven times before writing a single line. And it still didn't click. Maybe I am a tad slow. I went back in this forum and read all the posts (I don't read the posts of films I talk about so as I can be totally unbiased) and saw your explaination. I still really didnt understand it.
Might just be me. But don't get me wrong, I enjoyed watching it. Else I wouldn't have watched it over and over again. And when I said "odd" for the filming I didn't mean that as a bad odd. If that makes any sense at all.
Like I said, good film!
-Matty
Might just be me. But don't get me wrong, I enjoyed watching it. Else I wouldn't have watched it over and over again. And when I said "odd" for the filming I didn't mean that as a bad odd. If that makes any sense at all.
Like I said, good film!
-Matty
Well, thanks a lot for watching and really trying to get it. The movie's definitely different, and not for everyone. Your input is very valid, I was just trying to get a sense of where it was coming from.
Also, what kind of sytem were you viewing and listening on? You were the only one who complained about the sound and darkness, so I'm wondering what the problem was.
Thanks again for watching.
Also, what kind of sytem were you viewing and listening on? You were the only one who complained about the sound and darkness, so I'm wondering what the problem was.
Thanks again for watching.
Aaron Marshall
Well-known member
I really liked this film. It took a situation that is common (a drunken night out for a college student) and put a clever twist on it. You didn't know whether she was hung over or what. Come to find out she's as cold blooded as a viper. I liked the spike heels.
Great job. I gave this film high ratings on the ballot.
Great job. I gave this film high ratings on the ballot.
CallaghanFilms
Veteran
I see what you are saying; and of course film is foremost a visual medium...but I say the best case scenario is to have earth-trembling dialogue written in conjunction with the eye candy. Take for example any of these films: http://www.premiere.com/article.asp?section_id=6&article_id=2723&page_number=1luster said:
Great point...that should be number one on every scribe's checklist! He should ask himself, "What am I writing here? Is it a song (little-to-no-depth)? Is it a music video (some -however little- structure present)? Is it a novel (structure, but no multiple dimensions)? Or is it a full-fledged movie (in glorious 3-D)?
I know I use this for my checks and balances each and every time.
Enough of the sidebar...
I did enjoy your film, by the way.:beer:
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Mark Johnson
The Dude Abides
I love this film more each time I watch it. I hope you have time to do another edit with some of the very small tweaks discussed in this thread. I really believe this would screen well out here in some of the short film festivals I attend.