The Man in the High Castle

David Jimerson

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I was really into the genre back in high school and college, so I read the book back then, along with similar works like Fatherland -- alternate histories where the Axis won WWII, but before it was really, truly played out.

That said, Philip K. Dick is pretty much always better watched than read, and this is no exception. PKD is an idea man; he comes up with great concepts, but his execution is often (to me) unreadable.

It's a solid adaption of the book, one that understandably charts its own path after setting things up similarly to the book in the (very) broad strokes. It LOOKS great; the writing is uneven at times, though it's usually quite good. Rufus Sewell does an outstanding job making his character menacing and creepy yet still layered, instead of just a one-dimensional a Nazi caricature. Your opinion changes on every single character throughout the run of the show; heroes aren't always heroic; villains show their own kind of honor and integrity.

The look of it is pretty amazing given the venue and what must have been a relatively low budget. Some of the CGI is . . . less than good. But that's more than made up for in the costumes, sets, and the design of a a fully-realized world . . . including weird, original cars which never existed, but look like they fit in the alternate 1962 of the show, as in, they're the kind of cars you'd expect to see given the timeline.

I was hooked. I watched a couple of episodes per night and couldn't wait to get back to it every evening. The story went where I thought it was going to, but I don't mean that it's predictable; I just mean that 40 years of reading alternate histories pretty much prepares you for whatever's coming. (Kind of like BioShock Infinite, but that's another discussion.)

Some people think it's slow at the beginning, and I don't begrudge them that. I didn't find it that way, but I understand why others might. Make it to the 4th or 5th episode, and you'll want to see it through to the end.

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I watched the first episode... It was just too American for me (in stupid patriotism way). But still intrigued with the concept and might give it another go...

Just recently read Philip K Dicks "Do Androids dream of electric sheep?" finally, and found it much better than I thought it would be... So might also pick up this book.
 
Wanting to see it, but again, it's on a special, value added network at additional cost. So may have to wait a bit.
 
So no one watched? All the literature says it was very popular.

I watched the entire first season and loved it, though I found it to be a bit of a "slow burn" where you had to watch 3-4 episodes for it to sink in. I loved the attention to detail with little things branded with Nazi or Japanese symbols. I was kind of shocked by the "family visit" scene with the mother and two children, as I did not anticipate how that was going to play out.

...Way back in the Fall of 2014 I watched a very crappy looking pilot for this series that I think was made before Ridley Scott came on board and it looked like bad low-budget B-movie footage. It was only in the summer of 2015 when I saw the trailer for the production that Ridley Scott was making that got me all excited about the whole project. I read P.K. Dick's book when I was a teenager, but I think a good chunk of it went over my head. So seeing it realized with striking iconic visuals in Ridley Scott's series made me want to go back and read the book again.

Can't wait for season 2 to start up, which I am guessing will be the Fall or Winter of 2016.
 
Wanting to see it, but again, it's on a special, value added network at additional cost. So may have to wait a bit.

I think it's worth $11 for a month of Amazon Prime. If you're going to order anything from Amazon anyway, you might as well kick in a couple of extra bucks, get free 2-day shipping, and watch a slew of shows.
 
I watched the entire first season and loved it, though I found it to be a bit of a "slow burn" where you had to watch 3-4 episodes for it to sink in. I loved the attention to detail with little things branded with Nazi or Japanese symbols. I was kind of shocked by the "family visit" scene with the mother and two children, as I did not anticipate how that was going to play out.

They certainly kept you on the edge of your seat for that one.

The business in Canon City could have been wrapped up sooner than it was, so I get why some people thought it was slow. (And there was a noticeable visual difference between the pilot (filmed in Roslyn, WA) and the series (filmed somewhere in BC).)


...Way back in the Fall of 2014 I watched a very crappy looking pilot for this series that I think was made before Ridley Scott came on board and it looked like bad low-budget B-movie footage. It was only in the summer of 2015 when I saw the trailer for the production that Ridley Scott was making that got me all excited about the whole project. I read P.K. Dick's book when I was a teenager, but I think a good chunk of it went over my head. So seeing it realized with striking iconic visuals in Ridley Scott's series made me want to go back and read the book again.

Can't wait for season 2 to start up, which I am guessing will be the Fall or Winter of 2016.

Where did you see this crappy pilot in 2014? Would be interested in seeing it.
 
I watched this back in December and I liked it. Though it was a slow start. Took until halfway through the season before it hooked me. Not the best show ever, but worthy of a second season which I'll definitely watch. I do like the concept. I've never seen any other show or movie play off that concept before, so that alone makes it interesting.
 
Where did you see this crappy pilot in 2014? Would be interested in seeing it.

It was leaked to the web, so checked it out only for "research" purposes. I'll have to see if I can find it again, as it would be fun to do a direct comparison with the Ridley Scott version.
 
I was impressed with the production values, the 'patina' of the sets, etc... not bright shiny, new... I don't think I had a problem with the pacing. I too wait in anticipation for Season 2...

I've been impressed with some of the Netflix 'originals' and it looks like this sort of production may work for Amazon.
 
I didn't think the pacing was a problem, though there were "side missions" in Canon City which didn't seem particularly relevant to anything which happened later. But that's something I realize in hindsight, rather than being concerned with while watching.
 
The slow pace may result a bit from the complexity of getting aquainted with the strange mechanics of this dystopia - alternative history in motion. Not easy to swallow in the beginning. Apart from what has been written I do give the actors and the director's work with them credit for having created interesting characters in an unusual dramatic setup. Especially Rufus Sewell in the part of the American Nazi did a good job in creating believability in an almost unbelievable story. Series was well received among a small (The Amazon Universe) German audience and - no - not so much because "we" had won the war in this series, but because a lot of people in my generation have wondered how creepy and weird the world may have looked in that case. Looking forward to season 2.
 
A few years ago, I began pondering writing an alternate (military) history book with the events beginning on January, 1, 1944. The premise was Hitler dying in a car crash from an avalanche caused by a stray RAF bomb while heading to Obersalzberg for a New Year's party. Then I thought I needed more actual information on the jet engines, concrete production, etc. By now, my opinion is that the German retention of their Euro gains was quite possible. Any sort of global gains was not. Dick's premises are quite farfetched everywhere, from the American stance on non-involvement in the European wars to the Soviet plans on global revolution, etc. His ideas of what fascism/National Socialism might represent are also quite off, both from the economic and the cultural perspectives.
 
Dick's premises are quite far fetched everywhere

In Dick's alternative universe the Germans had mass produced the atomic bomb by the end of 1940, all of Europe was conquered by 1941, all of Russia and Eastern Europe had been liquidated shortly afterwards, and the United States had never recovered from the great depression and so was financially bust while Germany and Japan were busy slicing up the world to their liking. So Dick's world was nothing like the world that we know of.
 
Yeah I found the Canon City storyline (that was the town out in the sticks/neutral zone right? been a while since i saw) really dragged and took away from what was otherwise an intriguing new series, as others have said, Rufus Sewell was standout, and the other Nazi officer, his friend who failed in his mission (no spoilers) was good, their relationship and the way it explored the impact of what they had done during the war was well executed.
 
In Dick's alternative universe the Germans had mass produced the atomic bomb by the end of 1940 ...
An interesting thing about the A-bomb was that, even if the Germans could build it - and if they maintained the typical for the Nazi era production pace, it'd be done by the 1960's, if then - they couldn't deliver it to the US, except by a submarine (aka U-Boat). They had no ability to get it in the air and over long distances otherwise.

In any case, for an alternate history fiction to be plausible, it has to rely on some historical facts and precedents. As we had joked on old military forums, "What if Napoleon had a Paris Gun*" is not a hypothetical scenario.

*The "Paris Gun" was a WWI German railroad/moored super-weapon of the day that launched shells into Paris from some 80 miles away. 'twas a marvel of engineering.
 
Alternative history needs to stuff a lot of Schroedinger's cats back into boxes of uncertainty. As history is formed by both consistency and coincidence, the alternative can be free to a certain extend to play with a lot of unlikely possibilities. Or, better, in case of The Man in The High Castle make such improbabilities and the simultaneity of possible - not yet - "unboxed" realities part of the tale. Which gives the author(s) even more freedom than "normal" alternative history like "what if the bomb in the Hofbräuhaus had killed Hitler". So it will be very interesting to watch how this will play out in a second season. Can produce an animate cat or a corpse... ;-)

My personal high point for alternative history would have been the question, what had happened to the world if a certain rabbit had decided to build its burrow a meter to the right or left and Genghis Khan would not have fallen from his horse an broken his neck so all his sons and noblemen had to stop their invasion of both Europe and the Arab world and rush back to decide and fight over who becomes his successor. So much for consistency and coincidence.
 
I hold Schrödinger personally responsible for all the Schrödinger cat videos, especially those clips where the cat doesn't move because he may (or may not be) dead.

PS. While we may be certain about Schrödinger's cat, we're almost one hundred percent certain about Schrödinger himself. He's dead.
 
I hold Schrödinger personally responsible for all the Schrödinger cat videos, especially those clips where the cat doesn't move because he may (or may not be) dead.

PS. While we may be certain about Schrödinger's cat, we're almost one hundred percent certain about Schrödinger himself. He's dead.

Have you opened his coffin box?

As for the 'contrary to facts'... There was some amount of support for various aspects of the NSDAP in the US. Notably Henry Ford. So it is in my mind conceivable that due to the continuing depression, due to complete failure on the part of the existing government, that perhaps such industrialists would 'invite' the Germans in to shore things up. Of course once in the door... they went beyond just getting the US back to work, and productive.

In 'real life', Hitler came to power by a coalition of conservative politicians, who they felt they could 'control' the younger and inexperienced Hitler, and gain his popular movement to support their agenda...

Hitler of course as soon as he came to power, side stepped their attempts to control... and the rest is history...
 
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