The EOS 60D has been announced

Is the 60D out? I noticed Amazon is out of stock, and some other stores says pre-order 10/15. I know some of you have received it. Just weird how different stores have different release dates.
 
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drameddie said:
Is the 60D out? I noticed Amazon is out of stock, and some other stores says pre-order 10/15. I know some of you have received it. Just weird how different stores have different release dates.
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They have it on display at my local best buy, and people are posting reviews of it, so it is definitely out, although whether or not you can find one in your area is a different story.
 
It seems to be out since Monday most places.

Amazon changed their shipping info for my 60D on the 23rd to something arriving early next week. So imo it seems they were honoring the "official ship date" that Canon had announced (25th had been mentioned in this thread a few times) while other shops just started shipping once they were in stock.
 
A bunch of places got them in Wednesday before last. I got tired of waiting for Amazon to ship mine (they still have never showed as in stock) and ordered from pictureline.com

There is some good info and discussion about the 60D over at CheesyCam.

http://cheesycam.com/
 
markblasco said:
I thought I had made that clear in my post :) Canon is pushing the video on this camera more than ever before, and for me this camera would need to replace my every day video camera if I was going to justify purchasing it right now. With the marketing they are doing for this camera, I think it is fair that there are probably quite a few people who have never thought of using a DSLR for video before who will now be doing research (like myself).
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Tbh I think these cameras are more useful to me for 'creative' shots where manual composition makes a ton of sense. Run & gun documentary work is do-able but you're going to need a decent kit (rail rig, autofocus, loupe/monitor and some recording gear) to really get the shots you want. The GH1/GH2 are better in this regard because they're basically sharing tech with Panasonic's T700 camcorder, and thus operate closer to that workflow (and also have a corresponding kit lense that will work more like a typical camcorder.)

Also remember that a $1400 60D kit or Gh2 kit is only part of the equation financially for this same reason. The gear that will make the difference in your particular style of shooting will surely outlast the camera as the tech evolves, as will the time invested in learning how to use it. Personally I'm getting my Canon to expand my shooting ability specifically to GET these creative shots and add them to my existing workflow which gives me time to acquire cages for shoulder rails & so on as I go.

There are still a lot of places that won't accept pure HDSLR footage still as well (BBC for instance) but will now accept a mixed % of that with their accepted sources without slotting your work into the small % of 'nonconforming' material that they allow for (ie, pure HDSLR work competes with other "amateur" work for airtime where a mixed workflow might be more easily accepted alongside other mainstream/pro content.)

I also think that the speed that this market is being picked up by people (I've seen articles in music magazines as well as men's magazines etc about HDSLR's lately) means that the investment you're making now is NOT primarily the camera if you're getting started or upgrading gear to get into this now. It's your lenses, rig and learning the workflow. The improvements to tech will come as the market expands...and while I think you can accuse Canon of utilizing the same tech across multiple pricepoints to help their commercial interests (make $) without anything revolutionary introduced, I think that the overall market is still constrained by heat & dsp limitations that will be overcome in time as process reductions in cmos continue.
 
Another observation that I made when trying out the 60D next to the t2i, and maybe it was just coincidence, but it seemed like the t2i had more of a jello effect when moving the camera around. Maybe it's just because the 60D was heavier so it wasn't wiggling as much, but it was certainly noticeable in the short video clips I tested out.
 
So I have the 7D, but coming from the world of camcorders, the lack of a flip-out screen really feels awkward to me. I like to get creative shots, especially with a smaller camera.

I'm considering taking it back and getting the new 60D. I really don't take too many pictures, it's all video.

When people say the 7D and 60D have the same video quality ... is that dead even for sure? Is there something I should know about? Low light performance with video?
 
A very nice machine. The swivelling LCD screen makes all the difference and even with just one processor I find the video results indistinguishable from the 7D and superior to my Canon AH. The Canon AH has 3xCCDs to produce a 1920x1080i MPEG-2 output; the 60D uses an 18 megapixel APS-C CMOS chip producing a 1920x1080p H.264 video output. To the naked eye the sharpness and definition of the EOS is far superior to the video camera.
To edit in FCP I transfer the camera original to ProRes 422 and I was disappointed that the E1 plugin for Final Cut Pro was not available when I bought it, but now that has been rectified (http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/slr_cameras/eos_60d#DriversAndSoftware).
Built in audio is only usable as a guide track. I use it together with a Zoom H4n digital recorder (jam synced) and sync the tracks in FCP with PluralEyes. (Both the EOS and the Zoom produce time-of-day stamping which FCP translates into time code).
It's just like the old days of 16mm double system sound. All I need is a Steenbeck to make me a happy editor!
 
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