The Dark Knight

J.R. Hudson said:
I just still cannot get into Super Hero movies; the orginal Superman (and II) ruled; but everything else is Bleh.
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This quote is from almost a year ago at the beginning of this thread and it sums up my opinion perfectly. I probably wouldn't go and see this movie if I hadn't heard all of you praising it so much. Now I am actually considering it...

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John C Lyons said:
I'm with you, minus Riddler. There's gotta be other worthy candidates.
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Yeah like, the Penguin. :)
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How the hell did I get dragged into this thread? :D I never hang out in this sub-forum but I hop over here just for this thread and find that I was essentially already involved. What other threads have I been thrown into without my knowledge? :grin: I would happily take the place of the invisible bad guy in the next film. Waiting for the call...
 
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Saw this film, liked it alot. Heat was the man, I still have a hate for the batman voice, sounds like he needs a pack of halls or something. Heath really does deserve the oscar buz hes getting, its shame hes not around to see it. He is truly invisible in the roll

my 2 cents
 
Was a great movie. Not only is Bale's batman voice annoying, once in a while he sounds as if he has a lisp.
 
I liked the voice.

It's hard cause he cannot have the same voice as Wayne or it would be stupid and a giveaway. Especially since Wayne and Batman deal with the same people often. Kind of like how nobody ever picked up that Kent was Superman. Always bothered me...especially the new Kent in the awful Superman Returns.

When Wayne is Batman he should have a Scottish accent, it would solve everything.
 
taormina said:
Was a great movie. Not only is Bale's batman voice annoying, once in a while he sounds as if he has a lisp.
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Ha ha ha ha...you're right! There was one scene where I turned to my wife and asked - am I hearing things or is that a lisp?

It was late in the movie, rooftop dialogue scene with Gordon and Dent I think. Pretty funny.
 
Jared Meyer said:
Ha ha ha ha...you're right! There was one scene where I turned to my wife and asked - am I hearing things or is that a lisp?

It was late in the movie, rooftop dialogue scene with Gordon and Dent I think. Pretty funny.
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I think he does have a slight lisp and it is definitely noticeable when he's talking in his gruff Batman voice, which also seems to cause him to huff n' puff a lot.

!!!Possible SPOILER alert!!! (highlight to read)

On another note of possible interest, I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but a buddy of mine noticed that the guy threatens to reveal Batman's true identity on live tv is named Mr. Reese, or, if you say it quickly, 'mystries'. Perhaps this is foreshadowing the villain 'Edward Nigma' (or 'E. Nigma') aka The Riddler. It's very subtle and the guy's not an instantly recognizably actor either, so this could be totally wrong.
 
Kevin Conroy is THE voice of Batman, and he doesn't sound like he's constipated. Bale just sounds like he's trying to... you get the picture.
 
Found these interesting bits of trivia too (from IMDB):

Turning down a salary estimated at between $1 million and $2 million
an increase over the roughly $1 million she was believed to have earned for Batman Begins (2005) - Katie Holmes chose not to reprise her role as Rachel Dawes. This was due to what was described as 'scheduling conflicts'.

Matt Damon was Christopher Nolan's first choice for the role of Harvey Dent but turned it down.
 
I really liked this film. I thought the script was really solid, good cuts, some really nice shots and cinematography. I preferred Maggie over Holmes, though she played a different character to the first film. Interesting. Not sure what the bashing is all about on her appearance, I think she looks pretty good! Initially I had a little cringe at Bales batman voice, but when I think of it more as a disguise, and perhaps character physicality, then I don't mind it so much.

Heath Ledgers performance was really solid - I felt as though the Joker was almost a real person I'd seen before, then I realized it was just earlier in the film! The mannerisms with the mouth were cool. Very fine acting. That goes for the other actors too - I really felt this was well directed and acted.

The sound was really good and the score was pretty decent - I am a big fan of Hans Zimmer, and James Newton Howard. I thought there were a few too many "filler" moments in the score and you can definitely hear it when Howard gets a chance to write something. I really liked the first score and was pleased to see the return of my favourite themes. The one note Joker motif was pretty cool.

Overall an excellent film, and a real credit to everyone who worked on it. This is the kind of film that personally, makes me want to get into filmmaking even more.

Gonna see it again fo' sho!

Chris
 
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Matt Damon's acting is a combination of straining every muscle in his face. I give Nolan credit for taking a chance on Heath, but Damon as Two-Face would've been a disaster. As for Holmes, the scheduling conflict was that she was needed in the Spaceship that month.
 
If they ever end up replacing the Joker.... I would like to see what Daniel Day Lewis can do with the role. It would take an amazing actor to follow up this performance.

He's older but I don't think it would matter. Especially with the makeup and such.
 
Lewis was certainly psychotic enough in Gangs Of New York.

As far as Ledger goes, he was an amazing actor. He could bring depth to any role... no comments on Brokeback Mountain.
 
wait....what did he say?

wait....what did he say?

OK, so I saw The Dark Knight last night for the 2ND (and last time in the theater) and a theory popped into my head clear as day during one of the final scenes (mainly the scenes where Dent, Gordon, and Bats are chatting). Now this may be insanity talking, but bear with me here:

Batman is George Dubya.

Seriously. The movie has undertones and obviously they are making various commentaries with the whole Bat-sonar and privacy and whatnot. But ala George Romero with the Zombie movies...

Has Christopher Nolan just made not only a great Batman movie but a major social commentary on the West, terrorism, Iraq, security vs. privacy, etc?
 
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Daniel Day Lewis as the Joker? That would be INSANE! I mean Bill the Butcher was one of the best performances of 'villainy' ever...

I really liked the score (of DK), too. Especially the 'harmonious crescendos' (?).
 
John C Lyons said:
Batman is George Dubya.

Seriously. The movie has undertones and obviously they are making various commentaries with the whole Bat-sonar and privacy and whatnot. But ala George Romero with the Zombie movies...

Has Christopher Nolan just made not only a great Batman movie but a major social commentary on the West, terrorism, Iraq, security vs. privacy, etc?
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I don't know if I agree with that parallel (social commentary/privacy/terrorism, yes, Dubya specifically, no), but David Edelstein makes the same exact comparison. So you may be on to something. :)

The Dark Knight needs every drop of Christian Bale’s charm. His Batman rasps his lines in a voice that’s deeper and hammier than ever, and when Bruce Wayne has to pretend to be a mindlessly hedonistic playboy, his smirk carries a trace of Dubya entitlement. (Bruce pushes to use Lucius’s sonar device for FISA-like surveillance, and Lucius—despite his stern civil-libertarian qualms—does it just this once.) Maggie Gyllenhaal takes over (hooray!) for Katie Holmes and graciously doesn’t trash her predecessor’s characterization. She makes sense of it: Rachel is a bratty little show-off who also happens to be kind of smart. The other great pleasure is watching Pretentious English Thespian Gary Oldman play the soon-to-be Commissioner Gordon as the most ordinary of ordinary American Joes. Rarely has flatness been so witty.
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http://nymag.com/movies/reviews/48514/
 
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