The AF100+Handheld+PAL+Documentary advice

Jon Furtado said:
Indeed. But how much footage can I get on a 32GB card? That would necessitate a DIT on set to download footage.
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That would net you around 40 minutes of shooting time. Part of the reason I own 2 64GB and a 16GB. Expensive, but worth it when shooting lengthy pieces or with multiple cameras.

I think there are some crossed wires somewhere. I'm almost positive the budget doesn't allow this.
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I tend to agree. I think that, in the end, this is going to either turn out to be a mistake, or this person read somewhere that they needed 10-bit when they really don't.
 
Gary Huff said:
this person read somewhere that they needed 10-bit when they really don't.
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As potentially informative as these forums are, this is the down side. I have had the same issue with people either disparaging the AF100 in general, or all SDHC cameras in general, whether its date rates or 8 v 10 bit or color space. Most of the time they really don't really know the difference when they see a finished product, but because they browse the internet, they glom onto these "facts".

One of the most successful films I've made in the last two years I shot on HDV with a Canon HV40 that I bought at Sears on the way to the airport - I wanted an inconspicuous camera. I imported the HDV converted to ProRes HQ. The edit that I output has been broadcast, at least in part, in several major US markets and by the BBC in Wales and Scotland. No one has ever questioned the image - but if I had said "HDV" at the outset, they would have turned me down without a viewing.
 
Mac said:
As potentially informative as these forums are, this is the down side. I have had the same issue with people either disparaging the AF100 in general, or all SDHC cameras in general, whether its date rates or 8 v 10 bit or color space. Most of the time they really don't really know the difference when they see a finished product, but because they browse the internet, they glom onto these "facts".

One of the most successful films I've made in the last two years I shot on HDV with a Canon HV40 that I bought at Sears on the way to the airport - I wanted an inconspicuous camera. I imported the HDV converted to ProRes HQ. The edit that I output has been broadcast, at least in part, in several major US markets and by the BBC in Wales and Scotland. No one has ever questioned the image - but if I had said "HDV" at the outset, they would have turned me down without a viewing.
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This exactly the kind of thing I tell my clients. You can pixel peep all you want. But great films can be shot in any format. It's all about the story ultimately.
 
Jon Furtado said:
Indeed. But how much footage can I get on a 32GB card? That would necessitate a DIT on set to download footage.

I think there are some crossed wires somewhere. I'm almost positive the budget doesn't allow this.
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Why not multiple cards? Download later.
 
Shooter said:
Why not multiple cards? Download later.
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Get cards! They are not expensive, but you should by the cards with the higher data rates, 60 or 90 MB/S and I'll tell you why. You don't need them for their write speed so much, but the read speed ( which affects offload times ) does matter. If you have a USB 3 card reader and usb 3 capable computer the off load time per card is significantly less with these faster cards. This is something you will appreciate every time you off load a card, or else be kicking yourself each time you offload because you bought the cheaper, slower cards.
 
I’m not sure you bid this project out right Jon. The client wants and expect more than you have invested in and if you have to rent the camera package without realizing the expense and not passing it on to the client your going to lose money. I hope thats not the case.
 
2-4 64gb cards should get you through most day situations. You can hook up a USB drive directly to the camera for verified data backup at day's end. Overall costs less than most external recorder solutions.

Have I mentioned before how very, very much I'd love to see a P2 AF?
 
Mark Smith said:
Get cards! They are not expensive, but you should by the cards with the higher data rates, 60 or 90 MB/S and I'll tell you why.
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This was what I was referring to mostly. It's true, don't try to do it all on a single P2 card.

But, then again, we're still running with this 10-bit deal. If the client wants a large sensor camera with interchangeable lenses, then it's going to be something different in the end anyway, and this point about cards is moot.
 
Again, I really think a HPX250 with a Letus (or the like) fits the bill for only about as much as was originally budgeted:
- original plans were to rent a servo zoom camera and external recorder. This suits both requirements without fussing about externals (external rental budget can go towards extra P2 cards)
- stated desire for 1080i50, 10-bit, 4:2:2. Check.
- rather easy to match shots because it's the same dang camera
- shallow DOF with the Letus in controlled, lit settings
- servo-zooming deep focus runabout stuff galore
- relative familiarity with control layout if you already own a Panasonic camera

Everyone forgot about DOF adapters (largely for good reason) once video DSLR's appeared, but once in a while I think they actually make sense... and they're DIRT cheap now.
 
mcbob said:
Everyone forgot about DOF adapters (largely for good reason) once video DSLR's appeared, but once in a while I think they actually make sense... and they're DIRT cheap now.
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He might not have any of this, so purchasing/renting an HPX-250 + Letus and then needing much more light may not be suitable.
 
Yeah, the rental budget is pretty much non existant. As it is, they're insisting on a recorder to get 4:2:2 from my AF100 and that just isn't in the budget.
 
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