Testing slow motion and CS4 settings

Green Hornet

Green Hornet

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We had our first snow of the year today.
So I thought I would shoot some tests.
I wanted to see what slowed down footage looked like on the HMC150 and also test
out some settings in Premiere CS4.

I wanted to test a custom setting in CS4, so I chose:
Editing Mode: Desktop
Time Base: 59.94
Frame size 1280 x 720 16x9
Pixel aspect ratio: square pixels
Field: No fields (Progressive)
Display 60 fps drop frame time code

Audio : 48k
Preview File format: Microsoft AVI
Codec: V210 10 BIT YUV

Other settings unchecked.

My source files were converted to cineform, but as you know cineform is not yet supported in CS4 (acceleration is not enabled, nor are there presets for cineform)

AVCHD does not have a 720 preset,
so I made one with the above settings.

I was surprised that it edited easy, and playback was fine.
It still had a red line on some of the footage, and green on some other footage,
but I didn't have to render it for playback, or to output it to Adobe Media Encoder.

I just built the project, cut the files and output to media encoder as a Microsoft Windows media file in 720/24p

I have just uploaded it here:

http://vimeo.com/3429630


It is still processing so have not had chance to view it yet.
The slow motion does not look as good as real slow motion, but not bad.
Shot CineV
 
The video has finished processing (post above)

Question, how is everyone else editing 720p 60fps footage
(premiere CS4 has no preset for that. I had previously used the sony presets, which seem to also work fine, just looking for the best method)
 
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wow 12 fps.
I think 18 to 20fps would look better still a fun video.

I'd do it with CS3.2 & mainconcept dvcprohd converter
 
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I actually like Premiere cs3 much better, for me, it just worked.
CS4 does not work flawlessly without modifying things...just my opinion.
It's working, but not like CS3 does.

I would just keep that if I could find my copy
(I removed in once I installed CS4, and have not been able to find it again)
 
green thumb said:
what do you have to modify in cs4? should i look into getting cs3 instead of cs4?
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I use cineform, and with CS3, it has presets for the type of footage you shot,
e.g. if you shot 720/24p, there is a selection for that, so no guessing on how to set up the time line.

With CS4, it suposedly adds native AVCHD, but for manny, you need a 3gig core 2 duo system with dedicated graphics card as a minimum, and then some still have had problems. Not only that, with cineform, acceleration does not work, so you get performance that is only slightly better than trying to edit native AVCHD.
A 24p file will playback at around 20 frames.

Magic bullet also does not work smoothly in CS4 even with the 1.2 update.
It works, but no preview, and sometime you get open GL crashes due to the way they changed second monitor display in the drivers of many video cards (as a copy protection device)

So CS3 can not edit NATIVE AVCHD, but it can edit cineform AVCHD in prospect HD, and ASPECT HD as fast or faster than one could edit standard DV footage. I don't use neo scene, but it seems as if it is a renamed software that is really aspect hd (renamed, and at a lower price).

And magic bullet and other plug-ins work in CS3.

So in a nut shell, CS3 works, or can be made to work, whereas CS4 really doesn't work, (but can be made to work)

CS4 does not have any presets for 720 footage (except if you use the sony presets). you can make a custom preset by editing in desktop mode where you can select any parameter you want, but it might not be an actual parameter so results can be sketchy. I think that would be the only way for you to get 10 bit color though.

If I were doing it all over again, I would get CS3 if you can find it. Being that you purchased it after CS4 was released, Adobe will give you a free update to CS4.
I would do that (upgrade) once a workable cs4 was released.
 
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