Test with red rock micro 35 m2 adapter

smelni

smelni

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Last night i quickly put together some test footage with and without the adapter to see the difference.

This was done quickly so it may be a bit dark but it shows the difference very well. The purpose was to show the difference in DOF and how sharp the image is in the adapter - it was literally put together in 15 minutes. I also had a minor problem with the flip in premier with the interlace - i will clear that up later.

http://www.slmproduction.com/media/m2test.html

let me know what you think
 
I downloaded the clip but it doesn't seem to wana play. I got some sound i think but no picture??
 
did you add any lighting for the M2 footage? i seem to be losing a good amount of light...
 
sink - did you see my footage? the m2 had a bit more light - more because i forgot to move it back for the standard footage - woops.

I didnt need much light at all - same as i would have used otherwise - basically one 600 w with softbox and a chinese lantern with a 100w - but i didnt spend much time at all lighting.

only issue i saw was a bit of ghosting on the reflective surfaces in the backgrounds.
 
yah i could see it fine. I only had time to test mine for a few minutes once I got it set up...and it seemed pretty dark so I didnt notice ghosting or anything...
 
It all looks soft or somewhat out of focus. I wonder, is it possible that the 100a macro was not perfectly set?

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I'm seeing the same things as Overland and Coffee - it definitely looks soft to me. I hate to admit this but when I loaded upthe "non adapter" footage I was glad to see how crisp it looked.

As far as the ghosting goes, its my understanding that this may be caused by the thinness of the imaging element in the M2. Seems to be a pretty common problem from what I've read.
 
Shoot a resolution chart and see what you are getting out of this thing. Looks pretty soft to me.
 
uninterlaced version much better

uninterlaced version much better

Thanks for the comments -

some of the softness was due to me not uninterlacing - so i put up another version in true 24p - it is much sharper - and when i did a full res one at home its even sharper yet

take another look and let me know what you think

http://www.slmproduction.com/media/m2_clip2.mpg
 
a2zproductions said:
What about the white flash?

HOWDOYADOTHAT?
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it's your vision dude, you're seeing things.... lol


I looked at the second clip... it looks a tad bit sharper but still kind of soft.... It's killing me seeing it like that because it's such a cool product.
 
understood - keep in mind it was a quick 15 minute first test - ill try to put something else together with more attention to detail. Ill post it when i do
 
So being the rookie here, I'll ask this:

This is the product that finally compliments all of the gee whiz bang things on a camera like the DVX100A? (i.e. 24p, etc, etc.) And the main reason why is because of the DOF that help prevent a movie from screaming "HOME MOVIE!"

(I understand that there is a little more to it than that, but this is just a general question.)
 
In short i think you got it right.

It allows you to use interchangeable lenses and get whatever DOF is available to that lens (well actually more DOF then the lens normally gets because of the difference in frame size).

The softening of the image also takes some of the video edge off - though too much, is in my example, shows that the micro 35 wasnt set up exactly correct.
 
So the question still remains: Would this be a needed invested or more like a "nice to have" due to the CINE-LIKE Gamma available to the DVX100A?

I know it varies from shoot to shoot, but I dont want all of my stuff to scream "HOME MOVIE" when it comes to the video quality.
 
If you know what you are doing with the dvx100a it will not even whisper home movie - but on the other hand, its unlikely it will scream or whisper 35mm feature film.

So - this is a nice to have unless you need your film (for whatever reason) to at least whisper 35mm - then it becomes a needed investment.

depends what results you want, how much money you have, and how much time you have to work with new equipment
 
I think you guys exclaiming, "softness!" should chill out. An adapter that costs less than a miniDV camera isn't gonna give you the world. It'll sure give you durability and compatability though.

Keep on workin that m2.

-a
 
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