Brandon Rice
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Just got the BluRay yesterday, looking forward to watching it! 
Terminator Salvation
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Londude
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The war at the beginning of T2, was that led by Kyle Reese or John Connor? I cant remember.
Nektonic
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John Connor.
DarkElastic
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I'm defending this film now, but I have a feeling when I look back in 10 years, it will be on par with the Phantom Menace.rogar-Mad(DBG):
No, it can never be that bad!!!
I went into watching Salvation with the low expectation of 'as long as its better than number 3, I will be happy!' and it was. It was never going to beat 1 or 2.
As a first for a new trilogy, it did what it had to do. It introduced the main players and set the world. Yes, we mainly knew what to expect, but a future world had to be set in order to get us to the inevitable conclusion... I hope for more in the sequel... if it is ever made!!!
CallaghanFilms
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I pondered the "first Reese" question for years...until I realized with time travel stories (on the page or the screen) you gotta lay off the non-blatant paradoxes, and enjoy the ride.
Hell, the paradoxal trump card in Back to the Future (and Terminator, for that matter) is that the poo pooing earth wasn't even in the same orbital placement in 1955! That means that most likely:
-the Delorean would be floating away into the Milky Way darkness
-the Delorean would end up "inside" the earth (elliptical)
-the Delorean would end up "too high" and plummet the mile or so to earth
Once you play that card, most other paradoxes seem trivial...
Hell, the paradoxal trump card in Back to the Future (and Terminator, for that matter) is that the poo pooing earth wasn't even in the same orbital placement in 1955! That means that most likely:
-the Delorean would be floating away into the Milky Way darkness
-the Delorean would end up "inside" the earth (elliptical)
-the Delorean would end up "too high" and plummet the mile or so to earth
Once you play that card, most other paradoxes seem trivial...
Chamber005
Carbonite Member
This, to me, is what really set Star Trek apart in its storytelling. The way it allowed for the past to exist and a new future to exist parallel to it was just spot on.
Guess who has written a 24 page scriptment for Terminator 5 and a concept outline for T6?
Yep, William Wisher the writer of the first and second Terminators. Cameron has said before he has no interest in directing T5 but now with 3D and Wisher as the possible writer things could change, I hope.
"Wisher’s 2-picture construct takes place in a post-apocalyptic battleground, and factors in an element of time travel that allows for Sarah Connor and Kyle Reese to interact beyond their single fateful meeting when he traveled back in time to protect her in the original film. Wisher has created a role for Arnold Schwarzenegger that is as surprising as his shift from villain in the first film, to John Connor’s bodyguard in the second. Schwarzenegger wouldn’t be needed until the final film, which wouldn’t shoot until after he ends his term as California Governor. And who wouldn’t want to see Linda Hamilton back in aerobic top fitness form as Sarah Connor?
There are several new villains, and plenty of firepower. For instance, a swarm of “Night Crawlers,” 4 1/2-foot tall border sentries that are set like mines to spring up out of the ground and ambush rebel fighters with 10 MM pistols built into their wrists, and fingers and feet that are razor sharp. Also fresh off the Skynet assembly line are new shape-shifting cyborgs that can morph together in Transformers-like mode, and are more lethal than anything we’ve seen in previous Terminator installments.
Wisher presents a satisfying conclusion to what by then would be a 6-picture struggle between Skynet’s machines and John and Sarah Connor to preserve a future that allows mankind to prevail over the machines."
Yep, William Wisher the writer of the first and second Terminators. Cameron has said before he has no interest in directing T5 but now with 3D and Wisher as the possible writer things could change, I hope.
"Wisher’s 2-picture construct takes place in a post-apocalyptic battleground, and factors in an element of time travel that allows for Sarah Connor and Kyle Reese to interact beyond their single fateful meeting when he traveled back in time to protect her in the original film. Wisher has created a role for Arnold Schwarzenegger that is as surprising as his shift from villain in the first film, to John Connor’s bodyguard in the second. Schwarzenegger wouldn’t be needed until the final film, which wouldn’t shoot until after he ends his term as California Governor. And who wouldn’t want to see Linda Hamilton back in aerobic top fitness form as Sarah Connor?
There are several new villains, and plenty of firepower. For instance, a swarm of “Night Crawlers,” 4 1/2-foot tall border sentries that are set like mines to spring up out of the ground and ambush rebel fighters with 10 MM pistols built into their wrists, and fingers and feet that are razor sharp. Also fresh off the Skynet assembly line are new shape-shifting cyborgs that can morph together in Transformers-like mode, and are more lethal than anything we’ve seen in previous Terminator installments.
Wisher presents a satisfying conclusion to what by then would be a 6-picture struggle between Skynet’s machines and John and Sarah Connor to preserve a future that allows mankind to prevail over the machines."
Captain Pierce
Veteran
That sounds like the worst Terminator movie yet.
Heh? Pacificor took it back in bankruptcy court (for it's $29.5M debt owed). Sony is FAST TRAKING it, you will see T5 and T6 in theaters. Talk about an upcoming come back story. Just wait.
Evan S
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While I initially enjoyed t4 for what it was, upon watching it again the ending was just so silly that it killed any believability for me. Time travel aside of course. I hope that they keep Bryce Dallas Howard, Anton Yelchin, and Christian Bale. I'd like to see some congruity in the sequels.
I thought McG did a fantastic job on the sequences that involved action, however the story was so weak and so ill-thought that McG should have said something about it. However, at this point I think he was a pawn.
Brining on a more established director with a proven track record would do so much for the next two films. Someone like David Fincher (who was long mentioned for T3), or someone that has a vision who can take the failing franchise and make a solid slam-dunk on the next two films. Then hopefully we can leave it at that.
While T4 wasn't that great, I defiantly could live with it if the next two films hit it out of the park. Terminator movies are supposed to be fun. Bring Arnold back, bring back Brad Fidel. Some how drug James Cameron to produce(funny that he abandons Terminator but doesn't mind using it as ploy in Avatar marketing). Go ahead and pick up the will wisher drafts for t5 and t6, and make a slam-bang action film with the story that is dramatic and as touching as T2.
I thought McG did a fantastic job on the sequences that involved action, however the story was so weak and so ill-thought that McG should have said something about it. However, at this point I think he was a pawn.
Brining on a more established director with a proven track record would do so much for the next two films. Someone like David Fincher (who was long mentioned for T3), or someone that has a vision who can take the failing franchise and make a solid slam-dunk on the next two films. Then hopefully we can leave it at that.
While T4 wasn't that great, I defiantly could live with it if the next two films hit it out of the park. Terminator movies are supposed to be fun. Bring Arnold back, bring back Brad Fidel. Some how drug James Cameron to produce(funny that he abandons Terminator but doesn't mind using it as ploy in Avatar marketing). Go ahead and pick up the will wisher drafts for t5 and t6, and make a slam-bang action film with the story that is dramatic and as touching as T2.
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Jawa Ex Machina
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Although I hear Bryce Dallas Howard had a sex change after the movie and now looks like this:
...so maybe he can't play Kyle Reese anymore.
If that's the case, I think they should totally get that guy who played Chekov in the new Star Trek movie. He would be awesome as Kyle Reese.