Suitable monitor for video village

Mike@AF

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I want to get an LCD for video village use. It would not be for critical focus or color judgement, so I'm apt to go with a more consumer level TV than broadcast monitor. I'm think around 22" would be ideal, and definitely smaller than 32" as the mounts for those to be used on a combo stand or C-stand are almost as much as the TV's. I think being able to be used outside (so a fairly bright screen), good contrast, and good viewing angle are important. I'd also like it to be small enough to put into a Pelican case (with the original stand and the mount) for transport. Is anyone using something like that for their video village monitor and/or have a recommendation? Do you think 1080p native resolution vs 720p is important? There's very few 1080p options out there it seems.
 
17 inch TV logic should be enough. You'll never see 1920x1080 detail from that camera. Useful would be a loop-thru SDI IMHO, to use for a flash recoreder.
 
I don't want a broadcast monitor. At that size they're super expensive. I'm looking for a TV because they're a lot cheaper. This is just for video village. Part of why I'm thinking 1080p was to use dot-by-dot or pixel-by-pixel screen modes so nothing is getting cut off. A 720p screen will likely have some kind of overscan I imagine.
 
And how far do you plan to extend the HDMI signal? Or convert SDi to HDMI at the village?
 
I have a 50ft HDMI cable. I've tested it with multiple displays and it works perfectly. I'm also not concerned about it getting disconnected. There's ways to prevent that. So none of that is an issue. I'm simply looking for a solution that meets my needs.
 
I just order a 7" from CoolLCD for less than USD200. hope its good enough for framing and client viewing.
Sorry my bad, didn't read that you need 22" LCD
 
That wouldn't be suitable for video village. It's way too small and I already have a TV Logic 5.6" LCD as an on-camera monitor. I said 22" would be ideal, larger might be okay, but 32" definitely too big.
 
For 'set' I have the 17" TVLogics - for video village I have 26" panasonic viera consumer LCD's. Work great, clients are always happy. But one recently was 'smashed' and I can no longer get that size so I ended up with a 32" inch…. yes it's too big.
 
Mike, I understand exactly where you are coming from. There are two different groups of people when it comes to previewing. Those that need to see a professional monitor setup, and those that don't. I have used a 19" LCD I picked up from BestBuy mounted in a 19" portable rack mount case, which acts as a sun shade when the front panel is removed. It's only 720p but works for non critical client preview work.
I'm also thinking of adding one of the newer 22 - 24" computer monitors that have HDMI inputs and are 1920 x 1080, along with an HDMI over cat/5 extender. If I can be of further help let me know.

All the Best!

Dave
 
Mike, I understand exactly where you are coming from. There are two different groups of people when it comes to previewing. Those that need to see a professional monitor setup, and those that don't. I have used a 19" LCD I picked up from BestBuy mounted in a 19" portable rack mount case, which acts as a sun shade when the front panel is removed. It's only 720p but works for non critical client preview work.
I'm also thinking of adding one of the newer 22 - 24" computer monitors that have HDMI inputs and are 1920 x 1080, along with an HDMI over cat/5 extender. If I can be of further help let me know.

All the Best!

Dave


Cat5 converter. That's a great idea!
 
Mike, I understand exactly where you are coming from. There are two different groups of people when it comes to previewing. Those that need to see a professional monitor setup, and those that don't. I have used a 19" LCD I picked up from BestBuy mounted in a 19" portable rack mount case, which acts as a sun shade when the front panel is removed. It's only 720p but works for non critical client preview work.
I'm also thinking of adding one of the newer 22 - 24" computer monitors that have HDMI inputs and are 1920 x 1080, along with an HDMI over cat/5 extender. If I can be of further help let me know.

What does that 19" portable rack mount case look like? I hadn't thought about a computer monitor with HDMI inputs. I'll have to look at those. Are there any specific recommendations from anyone on those?

I just got one of these as an on-location client monitor, liked it enough to pick up a second one for my bedroom.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0038KUYLO/ref=oss_product

That's a lot like what I was thinking. Do you find that you wish it was 1920x1080 resolution? Any overscan from the AF100's 1080p signal via HDMI?

I just purchased the Sony LMD-2110W.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/735978-REG/Sony_LMD_2110W_LMD_2110W_21_5_Professional_LCD.html

It's a 21.5 monitor and it looks great and works perfectly with the AF100 (although it is much more expensive than just buying a tv).

That's actually not a terribly high price. I'll have to think about it since it's still considerably more than I wanted to spend right now.
 
That's a lot like what I was thinking. Do you find that you wish it was 1920x1080 resolution? Any overscan from the AF100's 1080p signal via HDMI?

No and (slightly) yes, but neither is an issue at all. I'm not looking at it, and the client is only using it to critique content, so it's hardly mission critical for it to be spot on. It's just an inexpensive way for the client to follow along. I heard one shoot say that when he travels, he picks up an inexpensive monitor at a big box house, use it for the client, then donates it somewhere before leaving town. Nice gesture, nice deduction, next time I'm in that spot I'll do the same.
 
I run HD-SDI cable from the camera to a Blackmagic HD-SDI to HDMI convertor for use with cheap HDMI monitors/TVs for video village. I also use a cheap HDMI splitter after the convertor to run two monitors if required.
 
Not sure what your price range is. A Dell UltraSharp U2410 right now is $599 USD...

They have excellent viewing angle. It also has a myriad of inputs including HDMI. It's a 24" but it will give you a true 1080 display. Has vesa mount on the back so you could hook it up with a baby pin (5/8") receiver if you wanted or use the stand that comes with it. Hopefully the link below will work...

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/category.aspx?c=us&category_id=4009&cid=ENAHOME&cs=04&dgc=IR&l=en&lid=DDMon&nf=7382~0~223133,177~0~174493&s=bsd&~ck=anav&navla=177~0~174493
 
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Why not get this: http://teradek.com/cube.html

Clients can use any laptop or even an iPad for monitoring what's going on, wirelessly. - Tim

Because it's really expensive compared to what I said I was going for. It would also require the client to bring their computer or iPad, which could be an inconvenience for them and I'd have to rely on them to bring the monitor (their computer or iPad in this case).

Not sure what your price range is. A Dell UltraSharp U2410 right now is $599 USD...

They have excellent viewing angle and there is a Rec 709 color profile built into it. It also has a myriad of inputs including HDMI. It's a 24" but it will give you a true 1080 display. Has vesa mount on the back so you could hook it up with a baby pin (5/8") receiver if you wanted or use the stand that comes with it. Hopefully the link below will work...

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/...77~0~174493&s=bsd&~ck=anav&navla=177~0~174493

Yes, I've been looking at the different computer monitors. I think I do want to go with something that is at least 1920x1080 so I can also use it for myself as a video playback monitor when editing on my computer (currently at 17" MacBook Pro). All the reviews I've read about the Dell Ultrasharp U2410 say it has major dithering issues. If it weren't for that it'd likely be the one to get, but I don't want to have to deal with dithering if I'm also going to use it for some post-production stuff.
 
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