C200: Suggestions for audio setup

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fhammond

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Have I mentioned that I'm a stills photographer getting into video and I have no idea what I'm doing? Yes? Ok, great...

I'm looking for some suggestions about audio setup. I've currently got an MKE600 on top of the camera, going into input one and channel 1, a Sennheiser AVX on input 2 going into channel 2, and I have the camera's built-in mic going to channel 3/4.

What I end up with in Premiere after I've transcoded the raw* is this:

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This was a quick test where I turned off the AVX (A2) about halfway in, then turned off the MKE600 (A1) almost at the end, leaving the built-in mic (A3, A4) active.

I realize that the correct setup is dependent on what I'm doing but if I'm trying to get audio from me speaking and audio from in front of the camera (environmental noises) does this seem correct?

I've got a copy of the The Location Sound Bible, which I'm finding very useful.

Thanks!
 
So I'm guessing that you are trying to record three different things at once, MKE600 pointed at one subject, AVX on another, and built-in as a third. Is that right?
 
Mostly. I think the built-in is probably not necessary. I was leaving it on because my other setup might be the AVX connected to a Sound Devices recorder, so I'd use the built-in audio for syncing purposes.
 
MKE600 is a shotgun mic and as such has a very narrow pickup pattern. If your goal is to get nat sound from the MKE600, you're probably going to be better off with a mic with a wider pickup pattern. Doesn't need to be omni, but a nice cardioid (as opposed to hypercardioid like the shotgun) will give you a better result and not be as sensitive to where you put it. I have an ME64/K6 setup I leave on my camera. Then I have the ME66 and 65 capsules for use in my blimp at the end of a boom.

I've never really found a shotgun mounted to the camera to give me much useful in the way of sound.
 
Yeah, it's good to keep the in camera audio for syncing... so i guess you are on the right track. Whatever sounds best for what you need is what you usually keep.
 
jbregar said:
MKE600 is a shotgun mic and as such has a very narrow pickup pattern. If your goal is to get nat sound from the MKE600, you're probably going to be better off with a mic with a wider pickup pattern. Doesn't need to be omni, but a nice cardioid (as opposed to hypercardioid like the shotgun) will give you a better result and not be as sensitive to where you put it. I have an ME64/K6 setup I leave on my camera. Then I have the ME66 and 65 capsules for use in my blimp at the end of a boom.

I've never really found a shotgun mounted to the camera to give me much useful in the way of sound.
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Thanks, that's very useful. I found a good comparison video between the ME64 and MKE600 and it really demonstrates what you're saying:
https://vimeo.com/54540728

The other thing I have that I'm hoping will be useful for natural sound is the Rode Stereo VideoMic X. I haven't tried it out yet but will do so shortly.
 
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