Suggestion for first HVX footage...

Jim Arthurs

Well-known member
Hi all...

I have a request/suggestion for Panasonic in the months to come...

As I think back on the "reveals" of the XL1, DVX, and the FX1/X1 I remember how painful it was to get access to stills and short video clips. Not only was there great demand for material, but sadly, most of this "first light" footage was poorly shot grabs in convention halls and run and gun footage from early units. It was very difficult to make any sort of decision about the picture quality of these cameras by this, and seeing high gain hand held night footage shot by noobs' did no service to anyone.

What is needed, IMO, is for Panasonic to put together a series of clips of this camera under pro lighting and shooting conditions; Run some charts at the various resolutions, give us some nicely produced material. Heck, put in some professionally lit bluescreen/greenscreen plates too.

In otherwords, Panasonic should, in their own interest, CONTROL the first images from the camera by making sure they are the images they want us to see. Make sure that this material is on-line or available on DVD BEFORE the "bad" footage starts to show up.

Just a thought...

Regards,

Jim Arthurs
 
I totally agree with this. You'd think it would be in Panny's best interest to show professionally done footage. Footage that will show us what can be achieved with good production values overall.

-Edalgo
 
To right... any camera can look like crap, I would like to see its potential!

Personal message Jan about it. She may be able to scratch backs and twiddle with knobs.
 
How about 2 models in bright red bikini's near waterfall with plenty of shadows and highlights. Maybe scenes from a moving car against a white picket fence, some cloud shots, and an amusement park at dusk.
 
I remember the great "shoot out" that Noah K. put together for the DVX vrs the Sony 150... what I'm hoping for would be Panasonic created and somewhat comprehensive, as we all know what the standard mantra from folks will be... "What's the resolution chart at?"... "What about Bluescreen?"... etc... and hopefully before anyone gets their hands on it...

BTW, bring on those models in red bikini's... :)

Jim Arthurs
 
Yeah, today nobody gives a shyte, back in the old days, Jack Cardiff was the regular shooter for promotional stuff for Technicolor, for instance.

Dear Jan, If you are marketing a camera, just budget for a nice looking demo. This camera is and has to be seen as groundbreaking. Be smart, you have the DVX, you have the Varicam, you certainly have the attention on you. Now blow us away and you'll sell a tn of cameras before this years end - and better, you'll stop HD-100s and FX1s sales on time!
 
Yes, all of that would be nice and probably prooven cost effective after a little bit of analisys. But then again, if they stopped doing it is probably because it isn't... :( They might end up just letting "us" do that for them for free once the camera is out. What's gonna happen Jan?


I'd be content with much less:

_A slow-to-fast-to-slow pan outdoors in a sunny day. All I want is one maybe two trees, a building and a parking lot.
_A moving (slow & fast), lit, indoors shot.
_A person in a green room (alive :laugh: ).
_A moving (slow & fast), low-light shot.

I'm not asking for the best steady-cam operator, just handleld by someone with a pulse. One person in each shot would be nice too, Jan maybe. :laugh: I'm just kidding, I just figured out that you are a girl reading another post :evil: , sorry, j/k again, that was with all due respect, it's just that you also have a cool job so, well... my ph# is 987-654-3210 :thumbsup: ).

This should be very easy to put together. Rent a set of lights (if they didn't have any) for one day, hire me for donuts and coffe for one day. Actually, I'd bring the donuts and coffe just to play with the camera!!! :shocked:.
 
If I were one of those in the undecided column I would want to see footage from an impartial source like Barry. Since DVXuser has a relationship with Jan I don't see why it wouldn't be smart of Panasonic to get him a working model before the official release to test out and post some results in this (and other) forums.

cheers
 
Good plan Wabbit. I am sure Barry wouldn't mind...? Please Jan...please?

USLatinContent, are you trying to get a discount, cracking on to Jan C?? LOL...? Get off, Jan's mine! :evil:
 
I am listening guys. I believe you are correct in this. We do need to have footage, and I would like to see it downloadable. We shall see about making this happen.

Best,

Jan
 
Yes, if you guys remember the test me and barry did with the three cameras back in January it turned out to be very sucessful, so getting some footage out there floating around would be a very good idea. Thanks Jan for pushing the buttons :)
 
Sorry, I have not seen a working one yet. I hope before IBC but I am not betting on it.

I think I am almost as anxious as you guys. ;-)

Best,

Jan
 
Please don't forget a professionally set up greenscreen shot or two... the on-line promo material dares to mention the suitability of the camera in this area so...

Along these lines of promotional thinking, I can't wait to see what the final HVX magazine ads will be like.

Why am I thinking of this now? It's because of the last several months of American Cinematographer Sony has had full page ads for the Z1 pushing the MOVIE making ability of this camera. Please, the Z1 is a watershed camera in many respects (I did own one for a while), but not for this market. The HVX won't have to, ah, exaggerate, to claim this territory in marketing, methinks...

Regards,

Jim Arthurs
 
DVD movies and can look great indeed with the Z1. I like it, but it will turn out to be down right a waste of part of the HVX's price unless someone sabotages the design.

Jan, I agree now that it was mentioned, that the footage should be captured by a third party. It makes a lot more sense. :undecided There has to be someone out there, someone that knows how (like Barry and Jarred) and you feel confident that they will be able to get the best images possible out of it (like Barry and Jarred) and someone that will go above and beyond and knows how to and what tests to perform (like Barry and Jarred). :huh: Who could it be....? Hummm....? Anyone got any suggestions?

This camera may very well be the most important product in years for the industry, opening doors to many broke-a$$ artists. Do it for humanity! :laugh:
 
Jarred Land said:
Yes, if you guys remember the test me and barry did with the three cameras back in January it turned out to be very sucessful, so getting some footage out there floating around would be a very good idea. Thanks Jan for pushing the buttons :)

Jarred, it would be nice if Panasonic let you and Barry play with the camera to produce some footage for us to see.

That would be really cool!
 
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