Taylor Moore
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There has been talk in a recent post regarding swapping stock footage. I think this is a great idea.
Any ideas on best execution ...and implementation?
Any ideas on best execution ...and implementation?
Stock Footage Swap
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J.R. Hudson
Spirit Animal
Re: Stock Footage Swap
Maybe we can start a thread that is for NO REPLIES but for a STOCK FOOTAGE LISTING only? Each reply is basically a description and type of file?
Maybe we can start a thread that is for NO REPLIES but for a STOCK FOOTAGE LISTING only? Each reply is basically a description and type of file?
Taylor Moore
Veteran
Re: Stock Footage Swap
And for the people who have the ability to host they can put a still frame or a small vid on-line. If they like it then contact the owner of the vid and work out swap terms or monies...
And for the people who have the ability to host they can put a still frame or a small vid on-line. If they like it then contact the owner of the vid and work out swap terms or monies...
J.R. Hudson
Spirit Animal
Re: Stock Footage Swap
I wonder if Jarred would give us an entire thread devoted to Stock Footage?
And then, each TOPIC in the thread would have what you were looking for?
SAN DIEGO - CITY LIFE - NIGHT
Yes! Def with Frame grabs and the footage for those who can have the footage hosted!
I wonder if Jarred would give us an entire thread devoted to Stock Footage?
And then, each TOPIC in the thread would have what you were looking for?
SAN DIEGO - CITY LIFE - NIGHT
Yes! Def with Frame grabs and the footage for those who can have the footage hosted!
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Well, transporting it might be an issue. On tape? As data on DVD? I kind of had this in mind when I posted a question as to how best to save 24pA footage in the Vegas area, but no one replied . . .
Well, transporting it might be an issue. On tape? As data on DVD? I kind of had this in mind when I posted a question as to how best to save 24pA footage in the Vegas area, but no one replied . . .
Taylor Moore
Veteran
Re: Stock Footage Swap
Possibly just mail it out...or FTP if it's not too big...
Possibly just mail it out...or FTP if it's not too big...
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Right. I'm thinking it'll pretty much have to be "uncompressed" DV to be useful. If it's saved as data in 24pA on a DVD, that'll fit what, about 18-20 minutes of footage?
Vs. 60 minutes on a mini-DV cassette?
Still, three DVDs are about the same price as a cassette, so I guess, financially, it's a wash.
Of course, we all together could form a stock footage co-op to rival Artbeats.
Right. I'm thinking it'll pretty much have to be "uncompressed" DV to be useful. If it's saved as data in 24pA on a DVD, that'll fit what, about 18-20 minutes of footage?
Vs. 60 minutes on a mini-DV cassette?
Still, three DVDs are about the same price as a cassette, so I guess, financially, it's a wash.
Of course, we all together could form a stock footage co-op to rival Artbeats.
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Yes, original stuff shot by us (at least that's what I had in mind.) We're all over the place -- why not take advantage of it? And when we have a library among ourselves, why not sell it to the unwashed masses?
Yes, original stuff shot by us (at least that's what I had in mind.) We're all over the place -- why not take advantage of it? And when we have a library among ourselves, why not sell it to the unwashed masses?
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I also hope to get some good footage in and around Kennedy Space Center while I'm in Florida . . .
I also hope to get some good footage in and around Kennedy Space Center while I'm in Florida . . .
J.R. Hudson
Spirit Animal
Re: Stock Footage Swap
That would be epic! I went there when I was a youngin'.
That would be epic! I went there when I was a youngin'.
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I'm a little more partial to JSC in Houston, but this should be a sweet outing.
I'm a little more partial to JSC in Houston, but this should be a sweet outing.
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Now, I know it goes without saying that those of us who will be part of this co-op won't be spreading this footage around without permission . . . doesn't it?
Now, I know it goes without saying that those of us who will be part of this co-op won't be spreading this footage around without permission . . . doesn't it?
Taylor Moore
Veteran
Re: Stock Footage Swap
Excellent Point. I am not a lawyer, I think a simple 1 time usage contract between parties could easily be created.
And also I'm sure your not going to be putting you best footage up for auction or swapage...
I sold my footage that was 15 years old and Getty Images bought it. I get my royalty check and asside from the initial shooting...that is all it has cost me and it paid off itself quickly. So yeah doing this idea is fun and good.
Another big advantage is that we are all using the same camera. If possible it would be great to add frame rate info etc. Have an anamophic section.
Excellent Point. I am not a lawyer, I think a simple 1 time usage contract between parties could easily be created.
And also I'm sure your not going to be putting you best footage up for auction or swapage...
I sold my footage that was 15 years old and Getty Images bought it. I get my royalty check and asside from the initial shooting...that is all it has cost me and it paid off itself quickly. So yeah doing this idea is fun and good.
Another big advantage is that we are all using the same camera. If possible it would be great to add frame rate info etc. Have an anamophic section.
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Well, if it's going to be useful, it'll have be good stuff, even if not the "best."
It's not that tough. The tough part is enforcement.
Well, if it's going to be useful, it'll have be good stuff, even if not the "best."
It's not that tough. The tough part is enforcement.
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A danger, I think, comes from someone logging in and registering simply to get the footage for free. There should be a screening process of some kind.
A danger, I think, comes from someone logging in and registering simply to get the footage for free. There should be a screening process of some kind.
J.R. Hudson
Spirit Animal
Re: Stock Footage Swap
I agree.
Maybe until they contribute actual footage they have to pay a small fee?
I dont know...
Thinking out loud.
I agree.
Maybe until they contribute actual footage they have to pay a small fee?
I dont know...
Thinking out loud.
J.R. Hudson
Spirit Animal
Re: Stock Footage Swap
Looks like someone has been checking us out!
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21089
Coincidence? I think not.
Looks like someone has been checking us out!
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21089
Coincidence? I think not.
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Considering that first post was TODAY, we've been talking about this for a WHILE, and he hit a number of points all in one post that we've taken several days to flesh out, I, too, think not.
Not sure what to do about the security yet. It may be that we have to go offline to do the swapping, but make mention of it within the DVXUser membership . . . bring someone in when they're able to contribute and we're pretty sure they're "one of us"? (gabba gabba!)
Also thinking about loud.
Considering that first post was TODAY, we've been talking about this for a WHILE, and he hit a number of points all in one post that we've taken several days to flesh out, I, too, think not.
Not sure what to do about the security yet. It may be that we have to go offline to do the swapping, but make mention of it within the DVXUser membership . . . bring someone in when they're able to contribute and we're pretty sure they're "one of us"? (gabba gabba!)
Also thinking about loud.
Sol M.
Veteran
Re: Stock Footage Swap
This is a great idea!
At the same time, it's easy to see how something like this could get out of hand in various ways.
I don't think I'd even consider using footage unless it wall at least full rez DV. As it is currently unpractical to 'swap' files of this size over the internet, the only really viable solution would be to send each other footage on media of some sort (tape, DVD, etc.) via snail mail. As such, there are going to be costs involved-- media, shipping, time (to package and mail out footage).
Due to all the different costs involved, the best way to go about this is for terms to be agreed upon solely between the owner of the footage and the individual interested in the footage. Perhaps these terms could be based off of guidelines set forth here in this forum. I don't think "outsiders" getting our footage would be a problem. And besides, if they're willing to pay, cool
.
At any rate, who's to determine who is or is not part of this community? New members have just as much potential for useful footage as long-time members.
This is a great idea!
At the same time, it's easy to see how something like this could get out of hand in various ways.
I don't think I'd even consider using footage unless it wall at least full rez DV. As it is currently unpractical to 'swap' files of this size over the internet, the only really viable solution would be to send each other footage on media of some sort (tape, DVD, etc.) via snail mail. As such, there are going to be costs involved-- media, shipping, time (to package and mail out footage).
Due to all the different costs involved, the best way to go about this is for terms to be agreed upon solely between the owner of the footage and the individual interested in the footage. Perhaps these terms could be based off of guidelines set forth here in this forum. I don't think "outsiders" getting our footage would be a problem. And besides, if they're willing to pay, cool
.At any rate, who's to determine who is or is not part of this community? New members have just as much potential for useful footage as long-time members.