Sony XDCAM EX

You know, it's funny. Looking at the camera in person, it looks like the camera is getting smaller but the lenses aren't and this is further enhanced by it being an integrated lense versus interchangeable.

The express cards are tiny too. I expect good things to come out of it once it's released. But then again, Panasonic and Canon have an opportunity to one up them if they get their acts together soon.
 
Simon Wyndham said:
Thats because lenses are reliant on the laws of physics.
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Yeah, it's really neat how they're able to defy the laws of physics on all the other parts of the camera! When are they going to get around to it with lenses? (sorry, couldn't resist...)
 
KMR said:
Yeah, it's really neat how they're able to defy the laws of physics on all the other parts of the camera! When are they going to get around to it with lenses? (sorry, couldn't resist...)
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Electronics and optics are bound by different laws of physics. Electronics are shrinking because there are tons of other industries pumping huge sums of money and research into developing cheaper, smaller, faster and more energy efficient "chips". Optics on the other hand don't get that much love and are bound by different restrictions. Think of a car, you can fit all the electronics needed to run it, entertainment and navigation systems into a tiny little cigar box these days and still run it from a small battery. Try re-sizing the internal combustion engine to 1/4 its size and still maintain the same power output.
 
Zack Vohaska said:
I would go with Canon in a heartbeat if I could capture HD-SDI to a portable capture device; however, this would not be compatible with the XL-H1; we'd need a revision like an H1s or H2 because the current Canon XL-H1 jackpack doesn't output audio in the stream, so... unless you plan on recording audio to a separate device or something, than no, this would not be viable.
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Oh yeah I forgot that the H1 doesn't do that and the G1 does. Damn.
 
shaocaholica said:
Electronics and optics are bound by different laws of physics. Electronics are shrinking because there are tons of other industries pumping huge sums of money and research into developing cheaper, smaller, faster and more energy efficient "chips". Optics on the other hand don't get that much love and are bound by different restrictions. Think of a car, you can fit all the electronics needed to run it, entertainment and navigation systems into a tiny little cigar box these days and still run it from a small battery. Try re-sizing the internal combustion engine to 1/4 its size and still maintain the same power output.
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I'm wasn't denying anything that you say here. I was just making a joke about what could have been taken as an implication that the non-optical parts of the camera aren't bound by any laws of physics. (Anything regarding "different laws of physics" is irrelevant to the point.)
 
One thing I like about the XDCAM EX is that is supports 720p at 60 frames per second so that means that it can whip pan circles around those bigger slow poke XDCAMS that max out at only 30 frames per second.
 
No this is one of Sony's first multiformat cameras. The old XDCAM HD cameras only support 1080i and 1080p but the new XDCAM's will support 1080i 1080p and 720p just like the Panasonic cameras do.
 
Yes. It makes good sens too with the EBU in Europe seemingly favouring 720p and possibly losing out to networks in the US that prefer 720 as well. Its about time really even if I don't think that 720 is the future.

Sonys new monitors that they have announced this week can actually display 1080 at 60p. The CCD's in their high end cameras (the same CCD's that are used in the new 2/3" XDCAM HD) can also capture 1080 at 60p too because Sony believes this is where things are headed. But the recording systems and output are not able to take this signal. I'll try to find out some more on this.
 
Simon Wyndham said:
Full compatibility in 1080i/p modes is assured because it records to exactly the same 35Mbps file format as the current XDCAM HD cameras. Combine it with the PDW-U1 and you have a really good archive plan to XDCAM discs because the MXF files and metadata will copy straight over using PDZ-1.
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dont forget a yu may need an even more powerfull computer to decode XDcam on the fly while editing. it is still Mpeg based isnt it?
 
I think this machine looks GREAT! im very excited by it! I hope its amazing! it will make a nice companion for my HVX200.
 
This MPEG-2 thing shouldn't really be that much of an issue as we go further... i would worry more about the 4:2:0 vs. 4:2:2 honestly.

If this camera got great results i'd def consider it but honestly, by the time it comes out i might already splurge for 2 16GB P2 cards so... who knows...
 
I've been privy to some great video footage shot behind-the-scenes with a Sony Rep.

The sensor is a completely new type, named CANTTELL.

The new CANTTELL sensor is a 1/2 inch, and yes, there will be three of them in the new EX.

I'm editing the video, posting to YouTube soon.

-andrew
 
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