Sony XDCAM EX

xpresscard... 8gb and 16gb.... two slots....
doesn't reminds you to something familiar?
what happened with bluray discs? aren't that the future?
 
polispol said:
xpresscard... 8gb and 16gb.... two slots....
doesn't reminds you to something familiar?
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If it had 1/3" imagers, then yes, it would remind me of the HVX.
But it has 1/2" imagers, likely clearvid CMOS, which makes this a different beast, IMO.
what happened with bluray discs? aren't that the future?
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Good point, but then again...the small form factor of this camera doesn't really allow disc drives to be implemented.
 
Anybody wanna guesstimate the retail on this? I'm going to be boring and say $5999... oh wait, did someone say 1/2 inch chips? Then I don't know.
 
BennisHahn said:
I'm guessing higher then that. I'm thinking more like the JVC HD200 in price, up around 9k.
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maybe not, “The XDCAM EX camcorder will make the most sense in small production systems, where the shooter and editor is often the same person,” sounds like they want to appeal to those on a budget, it porobably won't have a tape drive like the hvx, and does anyone know for sure that this will use 3 sensors (maybe a single large CMOS like canon have been doing lately in their consumer range)?

just guessing, but it looks like direct competition to the hvx to me, so price would have to come close too, but as i say that's just my guess (possibly tainted by wishful thinking)
 
no i mean canon

cause this could make them the odd one out of the big 3

i mean are they gonna come out with a handheld that has 2 ExpressCard compatible card slots too?

and if so will that lead to a new P2-like card format that works across the boudaries of brandnames?

i wonder how similar p2 and SxS are? and if they could be made compatible with eachother?

after looking at it more it looks a bit bigger than the hvx
 
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The only step Canon "needs" to take is the ability to team up with someone to come up with an on the fly compression scheme to get the uncompressed out of the HD-SDI port to something like a Firestore, or find a way to get something like HDMI compatibility with the A1 through firewire. (Yes, I realize these cameras were not designed to do this, ya, ya).

Other than that, I think they are sitting very pretty in the HDV market. There's a lot of people who don't mind shooting to tape at all, and embrace HDV. For them, the Canon's may rule this roost for some time.

As to cost on the Sony, 1/2" or not, if they end up over about $10k (sans lens) they'll end up in no man's land. They'll be eaten alive from below by the HVX200, and from above by the HPX550, and sideways from JVC and the Canon H1 (tape or no tape).
 
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VBR 35 mbs XDCAM codec is pretty friggin' good. If this camera does that with 1/2" chips it could be very competitive, even if priced well above the HVX.
 
snowleopard said:
The only step Canon "needs" to take is the ability to team up with someone to come up with an on the fly compression scheme to get the uncompressed out of the HD-SDI port to something like a Firestore, or find a way to get something like HDMI compatibility with the A1 through firewire. (Yes, I realize these cameras were not designed to do this, ya, ya).

Other than that, I think they are sitting very pretty in the HDV market. There's a lot of people who don't mind shooting to tape at all, and embrace HDV. For them, the Canon's may rule this roost for some time.

As to cost on the Sony, 1/2" or not, if they end up over about $10k (sans lens) they'll end up in no man's land. They'll be eaten alive from below by the HVX200, and from above by the HPX550, and sideways from JVC and the Canon H1 (tape or no tape).
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100% Agree that's exactly what I'm thinking. If canon makes or teams with someone to produce some sort of portable capture unit for HD-SDI, they reach new markets with and breathe new life without making a new camera.
 
Elton said:
VBR 35 mbs XDCAM codec is pretty friggin' good. If this camera does that with 1/2" chips it could be very competitive, even if priced well above the HVX.
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I fully agree.


This camcorder will be a force even if it’s priced at around 10 to 12 thousand dollars and what’s to say Sony won’t release an HDV version with the same size chips.
 
But wouldn't you seriously consider the Panny HPX550 at $14k instead? With proven P2 technology (and soon to be seen 32gb cards), and 2/3" chips? The Sony would have to come in under this including a lens and cards I'd think.
 
but this camera has a built in lens doesn't it?

the G1 is the most expensive non-interchangeable lens camera at the moment right?

somehow i don't think any brand can really push it much more, especially now that HD is becoming more widespread, the HD premium price should be falling.
 
That is one sexy looking cam. The specs are sexy too. Expresscard? 1/2" chips? Both 24p and 25p? (a big deal where I live). If it ever does get released, I'm sure Sony will find a way to screw it up.
 
wow!

it's on!

it's gonna be a nasty fight!

if this is an international camera (does 25P/50i as well) then does that mean it will be cheaper (relatively) than non-international cameras like the hvx, in australia/europe cause they only need to make 1 model ?
 
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