Sony RX10 with 24-200mm constant f2.8 zoom and 1" sensor !

Yikes, could they please, just once, put these early cameras in the hands of someone who understands film making...or photography...or light...stabilization, movement...composition, just maybe?

You'd think, after the 5D and Reverie and what's transpired since, and given the money that goes into R&D on these, that they'd understand how you capture the attention of potential buyers.
Seriously, Sony, I know you're big by most standards and you have real resources but just a suggestion - show your cameras for what they can do at their optimum, not their minimum.

Footage like this does far more damage than any (what?) possible benefit.
It looks like crap and suddenly turns me off from my enthusiasm over it's potential.
Send me one.
I'll take it on location next week or set up some scenes here at our studio.
Really.
 
jimagine said:
Yikes, could they please, just once, put these early cameras in the hands of someone who understands film making...or photography...or light...stabilization, movement...composition, just maybe?

You'd think, after the 5D and Reverie and what's transpired since, and given the money that goes into R&D on these, that they'd understand how you capture the attention of potential buyers.
Seriously, Sony, I know you're big by most standards and you have real resources but just a suggestion - show your cameras for what they can do at their optimum, not their minimum.

Footage like this does far more damage than any (what?) possible benefit.
It looks like crap and suddenly turns me off from my enthusiasm over it's potential.
Send me one.
I'll take it on location next week or set up some scenes here at our studio.
Really.
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I wouldn't fret too much. Videos like this with shooters like this would make an F65 look horrible too. All this camera really needs to do is perform 10% better than the RX100II and it will be worth looking at as a "tool" in your "toolkit". But I will say that I am not in the mind to hit the pre-order button as I have cameras that the RX10 would never replace. I'll wait to see footage coming in and user reports from those that have a sense for shooting before I make the decision as to if this camera can in fact become a tool in my toolkit. The specs seem promising. Now we just need to see real life results.
 
Yeah, I'm seeing it as a potential mountaintop camera.
I'm just ever amazed at how these things get represented.
I'm sure there was a cat in there somewhere in the great distances.

Also a gallery of new shots at dpreview and again I ask, does no one actually move in to their subjects?
It's like they're all shooting at Chernobyl.
 
Very sharp and clean. But... I mean, I don't expect miracles... I would love to see some footage with settings that tweak one or two more stops of DR out of this camera.
 
ya know what else i can't stand? reviewers not posting what profiles/settings they used. especially in high contrast situations. how is one to know if the RX did great or like garbage with something like that carnival footage? Huff says it did great, but just looking at the footage i would assume the thing was limited to an EOS style standard profile with 7 stops at best DR.
 
There's another Steve Huff video just put up. It's a 12 minute hands on video of the RX10. Whilst it doesn't give a great deal of useful information it does nevertheless show him using some of the menus and controls I've not seen in other reviews.
 
Stu Siegal said:
How is it that in these early tests, the RX10 seems to be outperforming the A7r across the board?
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Perhaps it has something to do with the entire sensor being scanned for video. This might be a first for a still camera. The A7/7R still use line skipping. The reviews I've seen show the RX10 to be noticeably sharper than its full frame cousins.
That's what makes the RX10 so unique. Other DSLRs can shoot video, but this camera is designed from the get-go to do so. The ND filters alone make this a desirable camera.
 
Either that Steve Huff guy has giant hands...or the RX10 is a lot smaller than I thought it was. There's something about it's shape that, I think, makes it look larger when you just see pictures of it on its own.
 
I want to love this camera... It has everything I need for a price I'm ready to pay... Except for the lack of dedicated focus ring.
 
regnaleb said:
I want to love this camera... It has everything I need for a price I'm ready to pay... Except for the lack of dedicated focus ring.
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I believe the main ring can be set to handle focus, but I agree that it'd be icing if it had a separate ring, and that they would be mechanical rather than by-wire.
 
azonicbruce said:
I believe the main ring can be set to handle focus, but I agree that it'd be icing if it had a separate ring, and that they would be mechanical rather than by-wire.
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For reelz. Still, everything should more or less be in focus any way, given the sensor size (although the ND filter will help in that regard). Mighty impressed with that night time footage....

What's really interesting is that this seems to be the first of the real next gen cameras. Very interesting camera, both in itself and what it potentially means for S35 cameras this spring. To wit, NAB last year was incredibly dull other than Black Magic.

This year is looking like a barn burner.
 
Do you think this camera will be any good for covering live events? I would get its uncompressed HDMI out to an Hyperdeck Shuttle for recording and converting to SDI, to a live switcher... Thoughts?
 
On paper, this camera should be pretty great for live events: Small and unobtrusive body, good zoom range, built-in NDs, limited aliasing, decent low light. The 30 minute recording limit is sometimes a hangup for that kind of work, but the hyperdeck could be a work around.

Again, on paper...
 
Wesley Byram said:
On paper, this camera should be pretty great for live events: Small and unobtrusive body, good zoom range, built-in NDs, limited aliasing, decent low light. The 30 minute recording limit is sometimes a hangup for that kind of work, but the hyperdeck could be a work around.

Again, on paper...
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Exactly, to get around the 30 minutes clip limit, give me ProRes recording, and allow SDI connections to the live switcher. I'm starting to believe that even if it doesn't exactly shines like the specs suggest, it might well be my next camera setup for this type of jobs: small footprint, long focal range, uncompressed output, motorized zoom, constant aperture, ND filters, decent-sized sensor... The only things missing are a Beachtek XLR adapter (that Sony is almost as expensive as this camera), and a yet-to-exist affordable 1080/60p external recorder. Being stuck with AVCHD internally sucks for 60p shots. I'm crossing my fingers the Bionz processor is H.265-compatible and that it will be firmware-upgradeable when it's available. If not, oh well, at least it has uncompressed output.
 
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