Animal eye will be very handy for those covering politics ..
FS5: Sony PXW-FX6
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Animal eye will be very handy for those covering politics ..
Anyone have any thoughts on possible IR contamination on FX6? In this Youtube comparison between FX6 and C300 the guy's 'black' T-shirt goes that terrible brown/maroon. Go to 1 min 45 sec.
Grug
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Doesn't look like IR pollution to me. It's a quite pronounced difference between the two, but if you look at the darker sections of his hair, and the darker shadows on the trees in the background, there's no contamination in those - which would suggest that it's a difference in hue rather than IR performance.
If you look at the red-painted curb behind him, you can see there's significantly more saturation in the Sony compared to the Canon - which would lead me to suspect that Sony's colour science is giving more saturated reds in the mid/darker tones, and since his shirt has a little bit of red in it, the FX6 is making that a little more pronounced.
rob norton
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Congrats mark! What types of projects do you think you'll use it for? Will you keep it small or see how far you can take it as a rigged cinema camera?
Vik Kamenicky
Active member
Welcome on board... I've ordered it also, but there are already delays in EU for the FX6. Hopefully I will get mid January, exactly when the DZO Vespid primes arrive. I just wish that the other rigging accessories will come out.
Grug
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I think it'll basically take over duties for every gig that isn't renting in a Mini. That seems to basically be where the market has split (here in Melbourne at leat) - there are smaller gigs that don't really care all that much (and generally just ask for an FS7), and then there are bigger things where you're shooting on a Mini or Amira.
I'll be rigging mine up into a normal cine configuration (the same way I rig everything essentially), I have a couple of new bits incoming though that will streamline it into a pretty tiny/tidy cine build.
I've got a Cforce Mini RF en route (so no more FIZ control boxes to add on), and an SDI/HDMI Teradek Bolt (my current one is only SDI), so that I can use HDMI for wireless video, which will leave the SDI port free to feed a Gratical (either by itself, or routed through the Shogun if we ever record raw from it).
I've also just got a bunch of Mini V-locks in (which are about 750g lighter than my Anton Bauers), so there's weight being trimmed out all over the place.
The result is going to be a fully rigged setup that'll sit at about 7.2kg for a fully wireless build, and 8.4kg if I have to add the Shogun for raw recording - that's 3kg lighter than the equivalent builds on my F55 (a 25% reduction in weight, and a 5.5" shorter build lengthwise) and that's with all the mod-cons included. Pretty exciting really.
And if I switch out the LMB-25 for a simpler, lightweight matte box (which is a much less scary prospect when you have the FX6's internal NDs), I could actually get the build under 7kg, which is crazy.
The remaining question to ponder now, is whether I sell off my pair of Fuji X-T3s, and replace them with an A7Siii (to live on the Ronin S2)? Having a matching sensor for the gimbal would be great, as would being able to share AF lenses between the two.
Yeah, I gather we're also back-ordered well into January down here. I'm mostly sorted for accessories, the only things I really need to add are the Hawk Woods battery plate, and I need someone to bring out a PL mount/top plate combo, that offers proper bracing for the PL-mount (like Wooden Camera's kit does for the FS5).
The CFexpress Type A cards are brutally expensive (three 160GB cards have set me back 25% of the cost of the whole camera!), but fast data wrangling is a big deal, and I didn't want to have to deal with swapping out a special media card, and carrying a second card reader at all times just to be able to shoot HFR on occasion.
I think the Vespids will go really nicely with the FX6, they're super tiny - even smaller and lighter than the CP.3s (and half the weight of my Sigmas).
Vik Kamenicky
Active member
What is your way to make it shoulder mounted / handheld? I'm considering the paring of Bright Tangerine LeftField with the Tilta Universal Quick Release Shoulder Pad as it has an Arri standard dovetail.
For the Card Read, you can get the pricey SONY MRW-G2, it has CFA and SD slot.
I'm sticking to SD v90 cards + 1 CFA for just HFR for now.
Grug
Veteran
I already have a Bright Tangerine baseplate, so my plan is just use that to attach the camera to my Wooden Camera shoulder rig for handheld work.
I didn’t realise the card reader could do both, that definitely makes life easier. I don’t have any V90 cards already, so that probably makes it a bit easier to just skip them entirely, and move to the faster cards.
rob norton
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Sounds great. Did you look into mini gold mount or you're going with v-lock batteries for now because you own them?
Grug
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As much as I dislike v-mounts (they come off way too easily), it’d be silly to switch over down here. Everything (cameras, monitors, lights) all uses v-mount plates.
The mini batteries are probably the single biggest development in camera tech in the last few years IMO, the weight and space savings are huge.
rob norton
Veteran
You could go mini gold mount for camera/monitors (hot swap dual adapter plate if needed) then really big/much cheaper v-mounts for lights.
It seems like the great batteries for small cameras like a 98wh aren't that good for LEDs and vice versa.
This is my plan anyway, keep adding the massive v-mounts for lights (and maybe larger monitor) and slowly get into the gold mount for camera/7 inch monitors.
Plus other people won't be able to use your gold mount batteries on set.
Nate Weaver
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Bebob micros (I got Ab mount ones) are the jam. I love mine, bought 12 after I got down to half of my Dionics taking a poop. Anton no more.
Mark and I keep buying the same gear. Mark, youll love the RF motor. I got the cPro kit and it’s awesome. I’m getting a FX6 too for the people who don’t wanna spend for the Mini package.
Mark and I keep buying the same gear. Mark, youll love the RF motor. I got the cPro kit and it’s awesome. I’m getting a FX6 too for the people who don’t wanna spend for the Mini package.
rob norton
Veteran
The Bebob micros look great. In Australia we get screwed for battery prices because they can't easily be shipped.
Grug
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I think that's a good strategy. The big 26v batteries won't give up the ghost as quickly as the little 14.4v ones do (lighting just hammers those poor batteries). So they should be a longer-lasting investment.
I think I'm probably a little too stuck in my ways of keeping everything in the kit as "universal" as possible. The more things you have that use the same standards, the easier it is to jury-rig a solution when things (inevitably) go wrong. That's why I like everything to be:
- Arri Dovetails
- 15mm Rods + Clamps
- V-Mount
- PL-Mount
- 3/8" Arri Locating Pin connectors
...or maybe I'm just a pedant?!
Well they do say something about "great minds" thinking alike!
I think Mini + FX6 is probably the ideal pair of options - keeps all bases covered.
rob norton
Veteran
no question.
Teddy_Dem
Well-known member
Wooden Camera announced some FX6 accessories:
https://www.newsshooter.com/2020/12/17/wooden-camera-sony-fx6-accessories/
https://woodencamera.com/collection...tm_campaign=sonyfx6&utm_content=pr_collection
Top Plate: $195.00 USD
Unified Baseplate: $499.00 USD
Battery Slide Pro V-Mount: $399.00 USD
Battery Slide Pro Gold Mount: $399.00 USD
E-Mount to PL Mount Pro: $499.00 USD
Sony FX6 Unified Accessory Kit (Base): $794.00 USD
Sony FX6 Unified Accessory Kit (Advanced): $974.00 USD
Sony FX6 Unified Accessory Kit (Pro, V-Mount): $1,473.00 USD
Sony FX6 Unified Accessory Kit (Pro, Gold Mount): $1,473.00 USD
https://www.newsshooter.com/2020/12/17/wooden-camera-sony-fx6-accessories/
https://woodencamera.com/collection...tm_campaign=sonyfx6&utm_content=pr_collection
Top Plate: $195.00 USD
Unified Baseplate: $499.00 USD
Battery Slide Pro V-Mount: $399.00 USD
Battery Slide Pro Gold Mount: $399.00 USD
E-Mount to PL Mount Pro: $499.00 USD
Sony FX6 Unified Accessory Kit (Base): $794.00 USD
Sony FX6 Unified Accessory Kit (Advanced): $974.00 USD
Sony FX6 Unified Accessory Kit (Pro, V-Mount): $1,473.00 USD
Sony FX6 Unified Accessory Kit (Pro, Gold Mount): $1,473.00 USD
Grug
Veteran
Looks good. The PL-mount solution is definitely what I need.
Just something to be aware of though, Wooden Camera are using their pre-existing Venice/Ursa Mini baseplate for the FX6, but when I asked the guys at Bright Tangerine about this (as they have separate adapter plates for the FX6 and the Venice/Ursa Mini) they said the FX6 is 1.3mm higher than the Venice/Ursa Mini (which is why they've made a separate plate for it).
Now 1.3mm might be within the tolerance of your Matte Box's rod clamps, so that you can adjust for it without hassle. But it also might not be. So definitely something to be aware of.
If you're using a clamp-on matte box though, it shouldn't be any trouble. 1.3mm is no issue whatsoever for follow focuses or FIZ motors.
morgan_moore
Major Contributor
And you wont be able to nick thier Vlock to power your camera!
Personally I use BPU batts which are native in in Sony cams but I also have plates to run follow focus, small monitors whatever. I also have vlock which might run many items or larger ones.