Sony (NEX or PXW) FS7: 4K Super 35mm XDCAM Camcorder launching on Sept. 12

External audio controls are included and on the user side. It appears the headphone jack is on the back, upper left corner, 3 levels of ND with the control up and out of the way, pro users will get a somewhat balanced camera fore and aft although it lilts to the side says Adam Wilt, to mention a few things that haven't been highlighted. We have the C300 juggernaut to thank for this fairly well designed, feature rich and inexpensive camera.
 
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John Foundas said:
So the question is "How much is a used Fs700 worth now?"
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Actually, I don't think (or is that hoping?) that their value has been too hurt. Especially for people who want raw. With the FS7 you're looking at $12.000+ plus recorder to get raw. The FS700 is, what, $7700 plus recorder?
Then again, all people who don't need raw are probably going for the FS7.

But I guess, if one should sell it, one should probably do it before the FS7 hits the market. Just to be sure ;)
 
It is often said that buying one generation behind is the most cost effective thing to do. Early adopters always pay through the nose, paying a premium price for products often not the finished article with disabled / unactivated features just to be able to own the latest tech. Ironically in several markets the clients are not asking for the latest tech. I personally benefited from the price drops of the F3 when the F5 was announced.

For my bread and butter productions rather than blow a budget on one camera I need matching A and B cams so instead of buying an F5 I bought one used F3 18 months ago and then added a second that I got brand new for 3000GBP cheaper than the used one! So for 8000GBP I managed to equip myself with a brace of fine 1080p HD cameras and the images they produce are wonderful and it makes the editing / grading cuts process so much easier having identically set up cams.

The point I wish to make is that very often the market does not require the latest acquisition / delivery resolution, many are still looking for HD if that is where your bread and butter work comes from then buying a generation removed sabres you a bunch, gives you a production pipeline that is proven and matured. IME buying on announcement always costs more than the investment is likely to recoup.

That said I have preordered an FS7! I want to add better slomo capture to my production capabilities and was considering an FS700 but the 7 seems to fit that
 
I'm also a F3 owner for two years now. Lovely camera with excellent image quality. But I'm tempted to go FS7. Not to get the latest camera because the FS7 has no unique features to pitch against a client but to get a tool that's smaller, lighter and easier to use.

So far there's no video going through all the functions and menus so it's a bit uncertain if it'll have features as histogram, LUTs, constant shutter angle in S&Q, spot meter and other things I use frequently on the F3.

To me the best things on the FS7 is the 10-bit internal recording and that you don't need any rigging for the camera to work in almost all situations. Even like the concept and price of the Sony G lens 28-135/4 but I would probably just use a metabones adapter and my Canon EF lenses.
 
Sony wants you to use the new G Series, but in theory the S-Series (up to 180 MB/s) should be enough.
If also the slower N-Series (80 MB/s) are sufficient, needs to be proven.

The highest bitrate in XAVX-I QFHD is 600Mbit which is 75MB/s...
 
I love my F3's and what they can do, I also added an Odyssey 7 just last week, not so much for the Prores 10 bit recording but as a good monitor for my crane. The recorder aspect being a bonus.

I like the idea of that new zoom lens too. So many times I've looked at the FZ zoom released for the F3 but it was just too damn expensive and rarely available used and virtually nowhere stocked it as a rental.

What appeals to me about the FS7 is that I can run it alongside my F3s as my primary slomo cam and it will also allow me to be more comfortable when taking on RNG assignments, and of course if I do have any requests for 4K I will be able to service them too.

The funny thing is here in the UK DVD's are still far more popular than Blu-Rays and many people especially those in the rural areas are forced to watch internet videos / tv services at reduced quality because the speed is so damn rubbish...but do not get me started on that one!
 
Osslund said:
Will the camera need the newer XQD G cards with 400MB/s or is the older XQD E 180MB/s good enough?
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Here is an official slide from Juan Mendez's presentation that will answer your question.

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Source: http://provideocoalition.com/awilt/story/122-slides-on-the-sony-pxc-fs7/P2

It doesn't show us what can be used with 72-180fps (at 1080p only of course) and what can be used with XAVC-Long as well as MPEG422 which are the other codec modes available on the FS7. But I remember listening to several interviews with Sony Reps that the G-Series was invented to accommodate the high frame rates.
 
Osslund said:
I'm also a F3 owner for two years now. Lovely camera with excellent image quality. But I'm tempted to go FS7. Not to get the latest camera because the FS7 has no unique features to pitch against a client but to get a tool that's smaller, lighter and easier to use.

So far there's no video going through all the functions and menus so it's a bit uncertain if it'll have features as histogram, LUTs, constant shutter angle in S&Q, spot meter and other things I use frequently on the F3.

To me the best things on the FS7 is the 10-bit internal recording and that you don't need any rigging for the camera to work in almost all situations. Even like the concept and price of the Sony G lens 28-135/4 but I would probably just use a metabones adapter and my Canon EF lenses.
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I wonder which will have cleaner low light images, the FS7 or the older F3. The FS7's base ISO appears to be 2000 or 2500 ISO using SLOG3 and the F3's base ISO, I think, is ISO 800? But the F3 only has 3.5MP. Both range from -3 to 18db (base ISO at 0db being different of course). Would be interesting to see!
 
I hardly ever use my F3 higher than ISO800 and reading the spec the F3 is supposed to be 63db S/N and the FS7 57db S/N. In reality given the higher native ISO2000 on the FS7 I would say they are equal when it comes to noise. I don't think ISO2000 will be noisy or at least not noiser than ISO800 on the F3.

The 180MB/s XQD cards will by the speed they have be more than enough. 600mb/s is the maximum the FS7 can record so that's well within the 180MB/s limit.
 
focuspulling said:
Problem is, it's even less inside the F3/F5/F55 family, as it's kindred to the NEX-FS100/FS700. I agree thought that there should be a new XDCAM category that includes Super 35mm.
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No, cameras should be together by mount, not by model name. Lets change the name of this sub forum to Sony E-Mount cameras
 
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