Sony NEX FS700-4K?

zijital said:
The extra faith I have in Sony comes from the fact that EX1 cameras can record to SDHC cards better after a firmware upgrade, essentially cutting into SxS card sales & profits. We'll have to wait & see, but I'd bet that it won't be a Sony only 4k output, opening up the door for third party recorders.
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I also have extra-extra faith when Sony initially charges near $4000 for the SLog upgrade for their F3 customers.
 
Mods, can you decide where this discussion should take place? Here some and then several other threads going under Sony FS100...
Perhaps you should create a SONY NEX or SONY NXCAM section and bundle them all there...
 
Postmaster said:
Actually I think they are horrible.
Every clip I saw from a A-Cam has ether the white balance off towards mellow yellow or was graded that way.
If you after that look, you can shoot on an iPhone, push your blacks toward blue and your lights to yellow in post.

Speaking of the lights, the roll off is errr... not there. Everything seems to get clipped at 80 IRE to a yellow/pinkish flat surface without any texture.
I have no idea, if that is a camera problem, an operator problem, if it is just molested in post or on purpose.
But to me, it doesn´t look good.

my ct2, Frank
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Missed this earlier.

Is there any footage you can point me to, so as to corroborate this assertion that the A-cam's "look" is just a matter of CC?

To my eye, there is a uniquely organic characteristic to almost all of the A-cam footage I've seen, and I have not yet come across any CMOS footage that replicates it.
 
arroway said:
Missed this earlier.

Is there any footage you can point me to, so as to corroborate this assertion that the A-cam's "look" is just a matter of CC?

To my eye, there is a uniquely organic characteristic to almost all of the A-cam footage I've seen, and I have not yet come across any CMOS footage that replicates it.
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I would like to know what this "organic" look is because to me everything officially posted is underexposed by a stop, the lighting is horrible, and the grading is horrible.
 
hendosan said:
I would like to know what this "organic" look is because to me everything officially posted is underexposed by a stop, the lighting is horrible, and the grading is horrible.
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Go to the site of ikonoskop a-cam and download some raw cinema dng files and see what you can do.
There is no need adjust the white balance on the camera.

Organic is a term what the filmmaker means what you see in analog camera's that's why most big filmmakers still shoot there films with the camera's from the same technology from 100 years ago.
That's the reason why we want close the gap with that analog camera, the companies as Ikonoskop-dBolex-etc etc..they see the difference and what they are missing with the digital camera's on the mark and try to make a products with other philosophy.
It's not always the pixels or light sensibility that counts.
My passion is film so I take the time to shoot best offer footage and this take's me sometimes 5 hour to shoot a 15 sec footage..
I want to shoot so close as get to the analog camera's and I know I can't get offer that kind of camera's.
I'm happy with the companies as Dbolex and Ikonoskop they makes it possible to reach mine dreams get closer
If you say it's only matter of grading sadly then you mission something according to the film
 
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No 4k in the moment - it´s announced as 4k ready. 4k comes via upgrade.
But the benefit of downscaled 4k to HD is impressive.
That and the new Hypergammas would be reason enough for me to buy that camera.
 
I'd love to see some low light performance VS the C300 and FS100. Even if it's not as sensitive, would it be cleaner?
 
cksunnymedia said:
Do we know yet of the FPS possibilities in 4k rather than 1080p?
24fps at 4k? 60fps at 4k?
Is this a valid question?
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Postmaster said:
No 4k in the moment - it´s announced as 4k ready. 4k comes via upgrade.
But the benefit of downscaled 4k to HD is impressive.
That and the new Hypergammas would be reason enough for me to buy that camera.
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Is there a limit with 3G/HD-SDI? Hypothetically If it can shoot 120fps in 1080p could it potentially shoot 120fps in 4k? Is that a limit of the sensor or the recorder/media/codec used?
 
cane said:
Go to the site of ikonoskop a-cam and download some raw cinema dng files and see what you can do.
There is no need adjust the white balance on the camera.

Organic is a term what the filmmaker means what you see in analog camera's that's why most big filmmakers still shoot there films with the camera's from the same technology from 100 years ago.
That's the reason why we want close the gap with that analog camera, the companies as Ikonoskop-dBolex-etc etc..they see the difference and what they are missing with the digital camera's on the mark and try to make a products with other philosophy.
It's not always the pixels or light sensibility that counts.
My passion is film so I take the time to shoot best offer footage and this take's me sometimes 5 hour to shoot a 15 sec footage..
I want to shoot so close as get to the analog camera's and I know I can't get offer that kind of camera's.
I'm happy with the companies as Dbolex and Ikonoskop they makes it possible to reach mine dreams get closer
If you say it's only matter of grading sadly then you mission something according to the film
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There's a lot of hot air amounting to nothing, and it certainly doesn't address what specifically makes these 16mm format DIGITAL cameras different than other digital cameras of different formats.
 
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