Sony FX30: an aps-c FX3

scorsesefan said:
Pretty amazing. Same as fx3 but aps-c and minus 1stop DR. If I didn't have the a7siii I would bite. FX60 on the way?
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Theoretically, an FX60 that maintained the same FX30 to FX3 price ratio (~46% of the FX3 cost) and landed at a cost of $2766 (let's just round up to $3000) with an aps-c sized sensor WITH e-ND, would be incredible... and unavailable for an eternity due to being backordered like the FX6 currently is.
 
It's pretty much what I was hoping for. I see that it has a 1.6x crop for 4k120. Does anyone know if you can record 24 and 60 in that same crop? And also, that's a 1.6x crop of its full sensor, right? Not a 1.6x crop factor compared to full frame?
 
Teddy_Dem said:
Theoretically, an FX60 that maintained the same FX30 to FX3 price ratio (~46% of the FX3 cost) and landed at a cost of $2766 (let's just round up to $3000) with an aps-c sized sensor WITH e-ND, would be incredible... and unavailable for an eternity due to being backordered like the FX6 currently is.
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Yeah, probably get your pre-order some time in 2024
 
ahalpert said:
It's pretty much what I was hoping for. I see that it has a 1.6x crop for 4k120. Does anyone know if you can record 24 and 60 in that same crop? And also, that's a 1.6x crop of its full sensor, right? Not a 1.6x crop factor compared to full frame?
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From Newsshooter:

https://www.newsshooter.com/2022/09/28/sony-fx30-the-baby-fx3-with-an-aps-c-sensor/

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"Above, the blue line indicates the 3:2 6192×4128 (26MP) still area. The orange line indicates the 16:9 UHD movie recording area when shooting up to 59.98p. The yellow lines indicate the UHD 100/120p crop area."

One good thing with the apc-s sized sensor is that you can use a speedbooster.
 
drboffa said:
I really wish they would have done this in an FX6-style body, with internal NDs, plenty of physical controls, and XLR inputs...

I love my FX6, but I sometimes wish it were S35 (without having to use CI Zoom or crop mode in HD).
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I think it's called an FS7 :)

Chris Young
 
Both Canon and Sony are due for a $6,000-$8,000 "professional" 8K camera. Both would rather release a slightly lesser camera for under $5,000. Because that's where the meat of the market is. A7RV is rumored to be announced within a month or so. It will presumably be close to R5 on specs but sell for a few hundred U$ less.
 
scorsesefan said:
That second base ISO is a little low. What does that mean for noise above 2500?
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probably that 5000 is noisy and that I personally would only go to 10000 in a pinch and never higher. on the other hand, they claim it's a proper dual base ISO, so maybe 2500 looks just as good as 800. but it has 1 stop less DR than a7siii to begin with
 
The FX30 having 1 stop of less Dynamic Range than the FX3 isn't great, considering that CineD shows the FX6 as having less dynamic range than BMPCC6K or the Panasonic BGH1 to begin with.
 
DLD said:
Both Canon and Sony are due for a $6,000-$8,000 "professional" 8K camera.
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I, for one, am not the least bit interested in 8K, and I don't drool over having more dynamic range. But I'd gladly pay extra for 4K XAVC-I @ 240 fps or faster. That would be a killer camera.
 
Doug Jensen said:
I, for one, am not the least bit interested in 8K, and I don't drool over having more dynamic range. But I'd gladly pay extra for 4K XAVC-I @ 240 fps or faster. That would be a killer camera.
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8K doesn't add value to stock footage and never will?
 
scorsesefan said:
Let's hope the price of the cards go down as more companies make them...
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Yes, it's depressing. These new ones are still $2/GB. And I'm not sure how many companies will jump in on cfexpress-a since so few cameras use them. But now there are 3 manufacturers or so, not just Sony like at first
 
Oh that's interesting -- the fx30 is $1800 without the XLR handle. Add $400 to the purchase price if you want the handle. (I've never used the one that came with my fx3, but I'm glad to have it.) And apparently sony also released a new XLR handle compatible with the fx3. I'm not sure what the differences are from the old one
 
ahalpert said:
8K doesn't add value to stock footage and never will?
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Maybe someday, but not yet. Shutterstock won't accept 8K and I don't know any clients or buyers looking for 8K. Heck, I don't even think most stock buyers are buying 4K yet. I suppose you could make the argument that the more K's you can shoot, the better future proofed your footage will be, but I think the payoff would be years and years down the road, if ever. I wouldn't want to deal with 8K footage in post on a regular basis.

However, with that said, I am planning to shoot Artemis in 8K with my A1 . . . if it ever actually launches. But I'll have ten cameras rolling on the launch so I won't have too many eggs in that one basket.
 
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