Sony A6100 and A6600

[Samuel H]

It seems to me: they don't have yet an ASIC that can do either 4k-60fps or 10-bit within the thermal requirements of these mirrorless cameras. Which is surprising, given how everybody else and their dog is already doing it (well, at least Panasonic, Fuji, BM). But it does take a long time to develop a new ASIC (easily 2-4 years) so, who knows, maybe they failed to foresee how fast the market would move in these directions.

 

[DLD]

... who did the cartel agree with to not provide us 4K/60p in a mirrorless just yet? Panasonic? ...

It's more than two players.

With the same sensor, Sony won't make a videocentric camera while Panasonic won't make an action/sports camera.

Ditto for Nikon - they make a videocentric Z6 with the same sensor but entry in sports/action will be an established DSLR (D6).

And both S1R and Z7 have to share an obsolete 47 MPX sensor while Sony is impressing the world with its new 61 MPX version. Even worse, Panasonic has to price their model at the same point as A7 RIV (Nikon already dropped theirs) because they already have three different full frame models.

 

[scorsesefan]

The first a9 didn't have S-Log2/3 either. I thought Sony would have at least added 60p in this one and make it like the 1DX Mark II (with 4K/60p and no LOG to offer some sort of cinema camera protection), but I guess they are saving it all for the a7SIII.

It's been mentioned in the past from Sony executives how are they still working on putting 60p into their cameras and I find this interesting because of two reasons:

(1) As amazing as technology is, do some major companies still have some technical adversities like managing heat at high resolution framerates based on their architecture in their current bodies?

(2) If not, who did the cartel agree with to not provide us 4K/60p in a mirrorless just yet? Panasonic?

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Skepticism about Keiretsu aside, Sony - a major player - has been loading up their mirrorless cameras since 2014.

Everything short of 10-bit, feature after feature, and still no 4K/60p...how fascinating is that?

I wonder if this is less of a technical issue than Sony protecting their higher end cinema cameras?

 

[NorBro]

The price gap is too large to protect. There's no middleman.

Anyone interested in a mirrorless camera is not going to upgrade from $2K to a $7K-$8K FS7 just for 60p (Sony doesn't have any other options besides a FS5 with a recorder).

If it were a question of $2K vs. $5K like for the better flagship camera with 60p (e.g. 5D Mark IV vs. 1DX Mark II) then totally...but they don't even get it in that one!

It's definitely cartel or a true roadblock with managing heat within their own camera bodies.

 

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