Small form Portable video computer: 4:4:4 video recorder and more

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Hello,

Some guys and i, are thinking (in the process of) for building a new video recorder, and want to get feedback.

We are software & hard. developers.
We are building some kind of small form portable computer focus-oriented to video.

Like cinedeck but with the half of price or less.

More like a professional portable computer system, 7 or 8" touchscreen integrated, with an aprox. length of 18cm. (a litle bit more in weight and size than cinedeck), but with more computing features.

Prof. specs: Intel SandBridge CPU low profile (low noise), 8-16GB RAM, 256-512GB SATA 6G SSDs with raid , integrated (maybe also rotating) 7 or 8 inch. touchscreen, ethernet, hdmi, battery and a capable 4:4:4 30p and 4:2:2 60p 10 bit video recorder.

You can record hi-quality, hi-definition attached to your camera mount, you can detach connect a mouse and edit on site with your favorite soft. (like premiere), do post, and finally make a copy through the eStata port (by connecting other drive: hdd, dvd-bd, ..)

What do you think ?
 
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Teodor Miljevic said:
If you could be able to make it record prores 444 and high quality mpeg at atleast 100mb 422 i would be very interested.
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The codecs will be Uncomrpessed 8 bit, 10 bit, DVCPROHD, MPEG 2 at up to 300mbps. Will be open as for codecs integration

Last proto dimensions of the computer have a length of 21cm per 19cm per 8cm.
 
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Are there enough cameras (that "normal" owners can afford) that offer a 4:4:4 output to warrant the feature? The new Sony F3 seems like the only camera that fits the profile.
 
Bassman2003 said:
Are there enough cameras (that "normal" owners can afford) that offer a 4:4:4 output to warrant the feature? The new Sony F3 seems like the only camera that fits the profile.
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So wouldn't a halvpriced cinedeck be the perfect companion for it? I am also quite sure there will be others to come. I am pretty sure panasonic will release something a little better than af100.
 
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Off the shelf HDs and SSDs - tool-less swappable - as a recording medium, SDI, HDMI + Components and I´m in.

I would be happy with a Blackmagic solution, since we use them since years in everyday production and never had trouble. Signal quality is better than the competition IMHO.

Frank
 
Sure, who wouldn't want it. But what are the rest of the specifications.

Screen brightness
Screen finish (matte or glossy)
Native resolution
Removable media, if any
Battery time
Battery voltage (12v?)
SDI?
What codecs are supported
What other output options to transfer to computer, just Sata?
What quality is the LCD? Good enough for exposure evaluation or just focus/frame?
Mounting options?
Hood?
Wifi?
Price
 
We are in the process, so some technical specifications will not be public until firsts demos or release.

Screen will be like tipical other ones, 300-500 nits, touchscreen and with the same resolutions like others, as currently there is no more than 800x640 native per 7 or 8".

Transfer options: eSata, usb (just v.2 and maybe new v3)
Camera mount.


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We are seeking for collaborators send PM.
 
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don't forget to TC in or out or both
either with BNC or LTC
it could act as master or just as a slave...

my 2 cents
 
For me using Windows in this sort of product is a deal breaker. Its just too unreliable, with too great a chance of being hacked. Use a real time embedded linux, or further down the road, (its not out yet but potentially much better) the Haiku OS. http://www.haiku-os.org/
 
Sounds fantastic. But I have no interest in using a system like this that requires a windows OS.
 
Windows OS and a choice of grfx-cards to put in - sounds like the nightmare I escaped from a couple pf years ago...
But hey, most of earths population seem to have no problem sleeping through...
 
I can appreciate that a product like this probably would not be able to exist without using windows as most other options would likely require a lot more customized software and limited hardware. It certainly seems like purpose built linux with specially designed drivers and software might be a bit more stable in some cases and probably more tweakable for its very specific hardware, but at the cost of flexibility and especially price. I'd have no problem using a product like this running windows 7 or windows embedded like the SI-2k or Wafian recorder or cinedeck. From what I've seen, this could be very powerful and certainly stable. One of the great benefits of having a product like this running windows 7 would be the easy expansion of the units capabilities using off the shelf software as windows certainly has the broadest application base available and certainly the most hardware support (less important for a fixed-hardware appliance device like this but it could have its uses).

My biggest concern about a product like this would be power, size, and cost. I am impressed with the form factor and power consumption of the cinedeck but not with the cost. To what extent would you have to compromise on these aspects of the design?

What software would it include? Are we talking about something built for running Cineform's CineDDR like the cinedeck / wafian? CineDDR has its own annoyingly high price point...

what kind of power consumption and options are you aiming for?
 
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