Skin tones on the af100

roei z said:
Regarding the canon color-
god help me but I just cannot get why people think the canon's skintones or
Color are attractive.. The minute I see canon footage I just pass..
Am I crazy?
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Well it's clear you like green skin tone looking at your avatar :P Only kidding, but on a serious note, I like skin tones out of my 7D, but then again, I also have liked them out of my AF100. There are so many settings on the AF100, you can really dial in a wide variety of looks. I started by tweaking out my AF100 to match my 7D (since I am so familiar with the 7D) and then have been slowly tweaking out from there as I see what I like.

Since I record in camera, 8-bit, to me it is vitally important to get the look as much in camera as possible since the final output is bit-limited. This is why I think it is important for people to take a lot of time understanding what the settings do so that you can dial in exactly what you need. It is NOT going to be like shooting on a 10-bit camera.
 
AF100_skintone_1.jpg

Here's the last skin tone I got. Shot is a bit soft. The guy was moving around a lot and this is the grab the editor sent me. Project isn't done yet so thats why I didn't include a link to the video.
 
PaPa said:
That looks nice Gardner. What are your in cam settings?
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Hey thanks
Settings were
1080/24 5600k

Detail -5
V detail -7
Chroma +2
Chroma phase -2 (the diva was giving me magenta)
cine D
Norm 2

Coring +2
Master ped -3 (I've been at -2 but went to -3 to get closer to what the 2nd cam/GH13 was looking like)

Also, I'm going to try -5 and -5 on detail levels because sometimes I feel like -7 is soft for my taste.
 
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jgardner said:
Hey thanks
Settings were
1080/24 5600k

Detail -5
V detail -7
Chroma +2
Chroma phase -2 (the diva was giving me magenta)
cine D
Norm 2

Coring +2
Master ped -3 (I've been at -2 but went to -3 to get closer to what the 2nd cam/GH13 was looking like)

Also, I'm going to try -5 and -5 on detail levels because sometimes I feel like -7 is soft for my taste.
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I find that Divas are a bit more magenta, but did a shoot the other week with the AF and used a Diva as key and it was MUCH more magenta than normal. I ended up using a Chimera/1K as key for the rest of the interviews and it looked much more pleasing.
 
jgardner said:
Hey thanks
Settings were
1080/24 5600k

Detail -5
V detail -7
Chroma +2
Chroma phase -2 (the diva was giving me magenta)
cine D
Norm 2

Coring +2
Master ped -3 (I've been at -2 but went to -3 to get closer to what the 2nd cam/GH13 was looking like)

Also, I'm going to try -5 and -5 on detail levels because sometimes I feel like -7 is soft for my taste.
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Nice, similar to my settings. Did you do any grading in that still or is it straight out of the camera?
 
Benjamin Eckstein said:
I find that Divas are a bit more magenta, but did a shoot the other week with the AF and used a Diva as key and it was MUCH more magenta than normal. I ended up using a Chimera/1K as key for the rest of the interviews and it looked much more pleasing.
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Yeah divas are not my favorite for a number of reasons but we wanted to shoot daylight and the divas are what we had available.
 
nice,

I've been running tests like a fool lately in order to get ready for my new web series because i'm still struggling where best to expose skin to get the nicest results.

I put myself infront of my window and basically shifted exposure ever so slightly so that my skin juggled between IRE of high 30's to high 70's. There was about, if i recall ( didn't write anything down ) about a stop and a half of exposure change on the lens itself from the darkest to lightest. I find myself, for the first time, with the AF100, sometimes going in between exposures even if it's 1/3rd stop more or less to try and get things to look right. Tricky tricky. This is also a tough test because we are nearing the end of the pasty white skinned winter... With a tan, everything changes..

skintonesrangetest.jpg
 
then that would be somewhere in between image 2 and 3 of my post ( counting from the top )

man im soo pasty right now..
 
My first couple shoots skewed magenta due to the onboard LCD bring so green, but once I started shooting with that in mind my skin tones have been just fine.

This was one of my first shoots in which I white balanced to grey card (key lit with daylight kinos) and dialed phase +2 as a result of using camera LCD for reference. As you can see, this was a mistake and I corrected the shot back in post. Original grab:



Here's a grab from a subsequent shoot lit with tungsten at 3200º preset.

 
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dcarstens said:
My first couple shoots skewed magenta due to the onboard LCD bring so green, but once I started shooting with that in mind my skin tones have been just fine. Here's a grab lit with tungsten at 3200º preset.

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No way....
 
I dial my chroma -2 right now. So far I am really happy with the color rendition at -2 compared to what I saw. And nice image content! :)
 
a nice tan like elton has also helps. Hard to get pasty white winter skin right.
 
The more I shoot, the more I realize preset 3200 and 5600K are your friends. Nice compositions, David. I take it you're loving the CP.2s?
 
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