Sin City Look
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Anhar_Miah
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well, that would get the look, but the in the actual film, the entire set was done in CG (virtual set extension) this was camera tracked and composited.
You might want to take a look at 3d set extensions. Of Course for static shots this may not apply as much.
You might want to take a look at 3d set extensions. Of Course for static shots this may not apply as much.
Ferdi Willemse
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Depends on what you refer to by "Sin City look". As for the environment, almost everything is CG. As for the soloed color tones - to get the best results I'd recommend rotoscoping it. It takes some time though, but it gets you some nice results.
Brett
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okay I am not a big user of AE but I do have AE 6.5 I have seen people use a LEAVE COLOR effect on AE to get a look that was exact to what I wanted he was wearing a red shirt and everything else was black and white http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7tIVor8Km4
But my scene is in a car and he pictures a world that is in color while still keeping everything in his depressfull life black and white. I thougt I would say screw it and just switch back and forth just keeping things simple in shooting just black and white for him and outside color. and could you explain rotoscoping? please dont tell me I have to cut out his image in each frame. Like I said im not a big afterEffects person but anything that you can help me with will be much appreciated thanks guys.
But my scene is in a car and he pictures a world that is in color while still keeping everything in his depressfull life black and white. I thougt I would say screw it and just switch back and forth just keeping things simple in shooting just black and white for him and outside color. and could you explain rotoscoping? please dont tell me I have to cut out his image in each frame. Like I said im not a big afterEffects person but anything that you can help me with will be much appreciated thanks guys.
Anhar_Miah
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well rotoscoping where you mask a shape (cut out if you will) the elements that you want to isolate,
you don't need to re-cut this shape in the next frame, but since the object or person is likely to move, you will need to re-adjust the shape, usually this is done through keyframing, by moving the shape between keyframes the motion path is determined by the computer. Most of the times that is enough, however sometimes more key frames are needed due to complex motions.
Rotoscoping is a very time consuming process, thats when rotoscoping artists comes in
and you pay him/her alot of cash )
you don't need to re-cut this shape in the next frame, but since the object or person is likely to move, you will need to re-adjust the shape, usually this is done through keyframing, by moving the shape between keyframes the motion path is determined by the computer. Most of the times that is enough, however sometimes more key frames are needed due to complex motions.
Rotoscoping is a very time consuming process, thats when rotoscoping artists comes in
and you pay him/her alot of cash )
unfiltered
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Andrew Kramer at Video Copilot mentioned today in his blog that he was going to make all of his free online tutorials, plus a few extras, available on DVD soon. One of the extras was the Sin City tutorial. When I read that, I assumed this is the effect that the lesson demonstrates.
http://videocopilot.net/blog/?p=49
http://videocopilot.net/blog/?p=49
I got that tutorial when I bought a few products from video copilot. The way to do that effect is exactly as have been suggested. That is to use a mask to isolate the area you want colors to remain. It's a pain in the ass sometimes but there's no shortcut.
Brett
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Is there maybe a step by step video guide that shows how to work with masking as far as leaving certain colors in? I've been working with this for awhile, and cant seem to get what I'm looking for. I am a new AE user but I am understanding the concepts of it. thanks for any other help.
Ferdi Willemse
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Not sure, but I'll try to explain it. This masking technique is also known as rotoscoping, btw.
- Drop your original video on the timeline
- Duplicate that layer (ctrl+d).
Now you have two of the same layers on top of each other.
- Add a Hue/Saturation effect to the bottom layer and fully desaturate it.
- Lock the bottom layer, just to be safe.
- Now select the top layer and pick the pen-tool.
- Start "drawing" a mask by adding (clicking) points around the area you want to keep saturated.
If you want a curved line, click, hold the mouse button and drag your mouse... you'll see what happens.
- To close finish your mask, click on the first point you added to finalize the mask.
- Select the top layer again and press "M" twice to expand the mask menu.
- To animate the mask, click the stopwatch to add a keyframe. Move forward in time to a frame where the mask is way off and drag your mask points to the shape you want to mask.
- Now do some "in betweening" between this keyframe and your first keyframe if necessary. So just add a keyframe in between and drag the mask shape again.
Follow this procedure throughout the whole clip and you'll have your Sin City look.
- Drop your original video on the timeline
- Duplicate that layer (ctrl+d).
Now you have two of the same layers on top of each other.
- Add a Hue/Saturation effect to the bottom layer and fully desaturate it.
- Lock the bottom layer, just to be safe.
- Now select the top layer and pick the pen-tool.
- Start "drawing" a mask by adding (clicking) points around the area you want to keep saturated.
If you want a curved line, click, hold the mouse button and drag your mouse... you'll see what happens.
- To close finish your mask, click on the first point you added to finalize the mask.
- Select the top layer again and press "M" twice to expand the mask menu.
- To animate the mask, click the stopwatch to add a keyframe. Move forward in time to a frame where the mask is way off and drag your mask points to the shape you want to mask.
- Now do some "in betweening" between this keyframe and your first keyframe if necessary. So just add a keyframe in between and drag the mask shape again.
Follow this procedure throughout the whole clip and you'll have your Sin City look.
If you just want one color left in black & white footage the "leave color" plug in requires NO ROTOSCOPING WHATSOEVER.
If you want to more than one color you can just layer the footage with a different color "left" in each layer. I really don't know why everyone is jumping all over suggesting you spend hours and hours rotscoping something that will look rotoscoped and sloppy looking when it can be clean looking and automated and take a fraction of the time.
If you want to more than one color you can just layer the footage with a different color "left" in each layer. I really don't know why everyone is jumping all over suggesting you spend hours and hours rotscoping something that will look rotoscoped and sloppy looking when it can be clean looking and automated and take a fraction of the time.
Ferdi Willemse
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That is, if the color you want to keep, does not exist in the background, skin tones, eyes, etc.
Robbie Comeau
Como's back. back again
wut do u meen arson?
There's a filter called Color Pass that will keep whatever color you want and get rid of everything else. Doesn't usually work though because there's shade of every color in the image and you usually ends up with colors in areas you don't want.
mastertee31
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Exactly why you would have to rotoscope it. Or you could maybe get away with making a large quick mask, tweening it, and then using the color pass filter. (This will eliminate the chances of other elements coming through that are the same color)