shooting in 24p (ADV)

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sockmonkey35

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I've been shooting in 24p (ADV) w/ my dv100b and when i presented a project to a professor he said it was a little fuzzy and i told him that i shot with 24p instead of 30 and he said thats why...

is there a certain way to capture things shot in 24p in final cut? or should i stick to shooting 30? :/

24 looks a lot better haha
 
sockmonkey35 said:
I've been shooting in 24p (ADV) w/ my dv100b and when i presented a project to a professor he said it was a little fuzzy and i told him that i shot with 24p instead of 30 and he said thats why...

is there a certain way to capture things shot in 24p in final cut? or should i stick to shooting 30? :/

24 looks a lot better haha
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so what were you shooting?
if you are paning a lot or shooting fast motion stuff, yes it will look FUZZY.
it's only 24 frames a second vs. 60 frames a second. so there is a big difference when you shoot 24pa. it will look way different then what you usually see.

I personally shoot only 24 or at 60. never at 30.
but if you like the look of 24 then stick with it.
 
What does "fuzzy" mean?

24p can look more blurred if it's at a slower shutter speed, but it can be sharp and staccato at a higher one.

Or, if ryvac is indicating, if you handle the camera the same as if you're shooting 60i, you can get some bad strobe.

All of this, though, is a matter of learning to work with 24p while you're shooting. It's not a capture/editing/post issue. :)
 
i was just shooting a still interview with some slower motion in it and it was a bit pixilated

basically he was surprised it came from a dvx
 
What were you showing him? Was it directly from the tape? Was it the original DV files you captured? Was it something you exported?
 
ryvac said:
it's only 24 frames a second vs. 60 frames a second. so there is a big difference when you shoot 24pa. it will look way different then what you usually see.

I personally shoot only 24 or at 60. never at 30.
but if you like the look of 24 then stick with it.
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Since when does the DVX shoot 60 frames per second? It shoots in 60i, which is 60 interlaced fields at two fields per frame for 30 (yes, actually 29.97) frames per second.

And 30P is fantastic for 24P slow-mo. Shoot in 30P, use Cinema Tools to conform it to 23.98, and you get a really nice slow motion.
 
It's not 60 frames per second, but it IS 60 (half-)pictures per second, 60 different moments in time. 30p is 30 moments in time, 30 time samples.

There's a big difference when it comes to slo-mo, because at 60 pictures per second, you can do much more of a slowdown and still have each time sample, each moment in time, line up exactly with a 24p frame.

True, the veritcal resolution will be lower than if you did a 20% slowdown with 30p, but the slo-mo effect will be much more dramatic.
 
Right... I'm just seeing a lot of folks around here lately call it 60fps.

Which it isn't.
 
That is true -- but the motion is the same as if it were. :)

I actually think it's a little more confusing to say that it's 30 frames per second, because beginners often think that means it's the same as 30p. It's functionally and visually much, much closer to 60 fps than it is to 30 fps.
 
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