Sharp 8K MFT Footage!

It has a particular look to it, but at 12 stops and barely any features besides high resolution, the only question that's left is how much?
 
I am actually more impressed by the XLR input. Slowly the hybrid industry is providing more video type design. But I hate the large LCD only approach. Give me a viewfinder along with the LCD for pro work.
 
Bassman2003 said:
I am actually more impressed by the XLR input. Slowly the hybrid industry is providing more video type design. But I hate the large LCD only approach. Give me a viewfinder along with the LCD for pro work.
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Totally agree!
 
More MFT camera manufacturers putting out/announcing products in the last 12 months - good to see. For all the m43 is dead talk, there sure does seem to be a healthy ecosystem around it.
 
filmguy123 said:
More MFT camera manufacturers putting out/announcing products in the last 12 months - good to see. For all the m43 is dead talk, there sure does seem to be a healthy ecosystem around it.
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"MFT is dead" is a Tony Northrup puffery of Tony Northrup. And Tony's wrong because MFT is likely to survive for a while at least on the low end of the consumer market. Furthermore, MFT has other advantages. As an "open source" mount, it's in no need of the G, F, Z, EF, L, X, FE, E, RF, NX or PL adapters. And, due to its size, it's quite capable as a fixed lens product too.
 
filmguy123 said:
More MFT camera manufacturers putting out/announcing products in the last 12 months - good to see. For all the m43 is dead talk, there sure does seem to be a healthy ecosystem around it.
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Based on how over the years almost all of the better specs/features came from MFT cameras first (at least at the consumer/prosumer level), and it took longer to get them from S35 sensors (and you still can't get some, especially out of FF sensors from some companies), it seems like it's easier to build a camera with a MFT sensor. (I couldn't tell you though...but several companies' first camera was MFT.)

And whomever says it's "dead" is most likely talking about photography and not video.
 
Absolutely unimpressed.

By the way, how about testing something valuable, like the rolling shutter ?
A series of locked off shots of Vegas really doesn't tell us much.
No single thing would distinguish a camera like this from the mirroless/DSLR crowd than this question.
 
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Sharp is hosting a launch event at NAB this afternoon... I'll see if I can get some more info then. And I'm going to try to talk them into letting me review one for them as well. :)
 
The Sharp presentation as a mixed bag. Part of it was that Sharp's video wall isn't even in the ballpark of Sony's Crystal LED; once you seen that in person, nothing else looks good. It's far and away the best large display there is; not even Christie can match it.

It was on the show floor, which has terrible lighting... not Sharp's doing, but didn't help.

Sharp's booth doesn't allow for a lot of room between the video wall and the viewer. Again not ideal.

About half of the content Sharp showed was, according to the contributor, mastered in 4K, and when you're too close to the monitor that looks soft. Again not ideal.

There was some very good footage in the presentation that Sharp put on, but a lot of it was from Sharp's larger 8K camera that eats two terabytes with just 40 minutes of footage, and makes a Helium camera look like a battery miser. So... not much to show what the new little guy can do, but the little guy is also not shipping yet.

It sounds like I'll be able to get a review model due to my Red Shark connection when the cameras are ready for production which Sharp estimates will be around August.
 
NorBro said:
Based on how over the years almost all of the better specs/features came from MFT cameras first (at least at the consumer/prosumer level), and it took longer to get them from S35 sensors (and you still can't get some, especially out of FF sensors from some companies), it seems like it's easier to build a camera with a MFT sensor. (I couldn't tell you though...but several companies' first camera was MFT.)

And whomever says it's "dead" is most likely talking about photography and not video.
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While true, this totally overlooks the benefits of m43.

The only reason the m43 bodies got features ahead was due to the lack of appeal, less sensitivity, less latitude, and less accesibility compared to larger formats. Which, larger formats got the image aesthetics much earlier.

The best thing about m43, and perhaps what will keep it around, in my opinion, is the size to feature ratio. I love how compact the zooms are. There is plenty of dof control, as well.

For me, it in part, replaces the feel of the 2/3” format with a nicer image. Nothing really beats the zoom range on a 2/3” camera, but in this 4K plus resolution era, perhaps m43 is the perfect hybrid video camera, riding the balance between aesthetic control, resolution, and practicality.

NAB did have a lot of small sensor cameras, so i am not insinuating the death of 2/3”, but just highlighting the niche that m43 has as a format, and not a “specs” camera. Specs will run out, but the attributes of the m43 format are just a very real thing.

(Plus the cost savings of smaller sensors. )
 
I think its reasonable to keep in mind that m43 may become extremely compelling when new organic sensor tech arrives. With higher light gathering ability, when m43 reaches ~14 stops of very solid DR, clean ISO better than GH5s with killer IBIS, ProRes RAW (or equivalent/similar) internal codecs, the IQ advantages of larger sensors may not be so great. Yes, it will always be outpaced by larger sensors, but there becomes an increasing point of diminishing returns.

At that junction, the size/weight advantage of M43 - I am speaking of the lenses here, not so much the bodies - will become more pronounced. It really does make a big difference for solo ops, zoom and wide angle lenses, docu shooters, OMB, travelling on planes, etc.

As for the 8K, I'm not personally excited. To me that seems like it would really strain the m43 sensors in their current form. I like the GH5s 4K 1:1 pixel ratio, not really interested in cramming more pixels into the limited sensor size. An S35 8K small mirrorless body would be more compelling to me.
 
Tamerlin said:
About half of the content Sharp showed was, according to the contributor, mastered in 4K, and when you're too close to the monitor that looks soft. Again not ideal.
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I think the benefits of an 8K monitor is more about not seeing the pixels from moderate distances, than about seeing all 8K content.

8K tv’s just make content look more organic.

Will depend on the upsacling abilities, but i’d hypothetically rather watch blurry 1080 on an 8K screen, than sharp 4K on a 4K screen.

I can still just see the jaggy edges on a 4K screen, but no where near the annoying digital look of 1080 or 720.

Resolution is as much or more about tonality than detail, and resolution sure doesn’t mean “sharpness”. 8K screens are the most natural and filmic screens i have seen.
 
filmguy123 said:
At that junction, the size/weight advantage of M43 - I am speaking of the lenses here, not so much the bodies - will become more pronounced. It really does make a big difference for solo ops, zoom and wide angle lenses, docu shooters, OMB, travelling on planes, etc.
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