1DC: Second Camera: Canon 1D-C? Help

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fcmcreative

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I've got a Canon C300 right now and looking to expand so that I can do more multi-camera shoots.
I have an opportunity to buy a 1D-C for $9,000. Just wondering if it's worth the price or if I should buy
2 5d III's to complement my current rig?

Thanks for your input.
 
The obvious choice to me in this scenario would be a C100, yet that isn't on your list?

What is your thinking? To help answer the original question better...
 
fcmcreative said:
I've got a Canon C300 right now and looking to expand so that I can do more multi-camera shoots.
I have an opportunity to buy a 1D-C for $9,000. Just wondering if it's worth the price or if I should buy
2 5d III's to complement my current rig?

Thanks for your input.
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Out of the box, the 5Dmk3 looks nothing like C300 footage. 1D-C intercuts, but still looks different. C100 seems the best bet for "Multicam".



For web the 5d footage you could get away with intercutting b-roll. But not true multi cam. 1D-C is great for b-roll, but would look different intercutting the same scene (ie interview), and would require some post work. So, C100 seems the best choice. I agree with Andreeoline.
 
You haven't mentioned the type of output.

If I were you, I would get the 1D C.

Its a piece of disruptive technology. It will not just be a second camera, but much more.

2 5D IIIs don't make sense as the quality is a lot different. The files of the 1D C is rich and detailed. Sharp and also gives you the ability to shoot at 4K and zoom in a bit to impart some motion. For some shots, this can be done.

I briefly used a 1D C before buying the C300 as my projects are mainly for broadcast. I have a 5D III, but that is for very specialised situation where I can't afford to put the 1D C. In India, a few directors are preferring to shoot feature films with 1DC. I got one such request to shoot, but by that time I had already shifted to the C300. One fellow wants to shoot with the 1DC as he can get away shooting in public places without permissions. The 1DC will appear like a still camera. Of course, all these situations don't seem to be your requirements, however, having a 1D C, especially at a lower price point doesn't hurt.

In life, there is no single answer to which path you should take. :)
 
indiawilds said:
In life, there is no single answer to which path you should take. :)
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So many questions about are asked directly, but never with context. So answers can be simple, but never helpful. Haha. 1D-c is good for expanding, but c100 is good for matching. 5d3 is good for the price (and raw) And I am out. =)
 
Thanks for the input! Basically I LOVE my C300 but I need another smaller camera like the 1D-C that I can use when I travel, more discrete but hight quality. Also want to be able to use it together when I'm shooting interviews and other smaller venues where I need an extra camera. If I went with a C100 and Ninja, would that bring the quality I need to match the C300?
 
Yes the C100 will match up the best with the C300. It is the same sensor, and recorded on a ninja at least as good output as the C300 internal.
 
fcmcreative said:
Thanks for the input! Basically I LOVE my C300 but I need another smaller camera like the 1D-C that I can use when I travel, more discrete but hight quality. Also want to be able to use it together when I'm shooting interviews and other smaller venues where I need an extra camera. If I went with a C100 and Ninja, would that bring the quality I need to match the C300?
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I found the 1D-C to only be slightly smaller than the C100, and about the same weight. 1D-C is a brick, very heavy for it's size. Not like a 5d3, which not feels like a shell of plastic to me. 1D-C is less obtrusive than the C100 to the average passerby. When inches and absolute smallest package is required, the 1dc is better than a c100/300, but for most things there is no real size difference/benefit. They are much closer in size than most realize, and about the same body weight. If you shoot handheld with anything over a 50mm, the 1D-C jello will kill you.



Also, if you run and gun, there is no live exposure tools on the 1D-C, and if you are switching between a C300 and a 1DC learning to 'use the force' with the 1dc may be problematic.

Some also say that the 1D-C is flatter, and uses a diferent LUT (check that out, I am not sure)


I like the 1D-C the best, but if I were doing tv shows, I would opt for a C100/C300. You need wiggle room, as the 1D-C is more like a dslr. You can get an EVF which helps, but then it is the same size as a C300, but no longer weather proof, and you need another set of batteries to power the thing, and deal with an hdmi cable.


Hope that helps. I would never say bad things about the 1d-c for no reason, it has a lovely image, just a lot of annoying dslr-like omissions (still better than all other Canon dslr's). Sad, because it is the most lovely 8bit image I have ever worked with. I hate that it is so detached, like a sports car with loose steering and no speedometer.
 
AndreeOnline said:
The obvious choice to me in this scenario would be a C100, yet that isn't on your list?

What is your thinking? To help answer the original question better...
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Thanks Jim. I thought about the c100 but the specs seem to show it's quite a bit more limited than the C300.
Does adding a Ninja 2 or other external recorder bring it up to at least 50mbs? Share your thoughts.
 
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