sdhc cards

BobDiaz said:
Given that some people are willing to put poison in children's milk to make a buck, it should be no surprise that they are just as willing to take a class 2 card and mark it as class 4 or 6. Worse yet, they'd be just as happy to take defective product and sell it as Class 10.
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Those who buy no-name cards from China on an ebay auction are taking a risk.

Those who see cards being offered for half-off or 75% off or whatever, are taking a risk.

There are those out there who can and will make counterfeit products and sell them much cheaper.

The truth of the matter is, you will pay, one way or the other. As the Fram oil filter guy used to say, "You can pay me now, or ... pay me later." Pay once for the best quality cards up front, and have trouble-free service. Or cheap out and get cheap trash cards, and pay through the nose to re-shoot when those cheap cards fail.

And yes, there's the potential for failure in any electronic device, but stick with the best brands and you should be able to minimize the risk.
 
I trust Newegg to ship genuine (not counterfeited) products, and their prices tend to be about as good as it gets for a lot of things (including flash memory), but it would be nice if they didn't have what seems like chimpanzees packing the boxes on the way out the door. I got a sweet deal on some ink-jet printable DVDs recently, but whoever packed the box should really consider a new line of low-tech work. They crumpled up a small piece of paper, tossed it in on one side of the box, and tossed the disk spindles in on the other. Not surprisingly, the disk spindle packaging arrived shattered and there were loose disks scattered all around in the box.
 
Bob, you will get 'mixed' reviews on ALL the cards. I can google right now and find bad performance reviews on Toshiba, PNY, Kingston, Lexar, etc. ...
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There's an old joke,"A man with one watch, knows what time it is, but a man with 2 watches is never quite sure..." :huh:

Fakes can really distort the results, but overall any brand that is reasonably good should show overall high marks on user reviews.

In looking over messages about card failures, the pattern I see is that the cheap junk tends to fail after just a few times. For example:

It's partly my fault for going for the lowest priced Class 6 SDHC card. But for the card to fail so quickly and readily was a huge surprise. ...

I bought this card to take pic's during my wedding anniversary. It worked the day I got it and FAILED the first day on vacation! ...

 Junk The card failed in my Panasonic Gh-1 camera after just one day's use. ...
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Bob Diaz

 
Yes there will be bad reviews for everything. First there is the case of people remarking substandard chips and selling them as something more than they were meant to be. Second, there are people with unrealistic expectations. Third, there are people who just don't know what they are doing. And, finally, there is just plain bad luck.

I had a friend who couldn't keep a Honda Accord on the road. It was eating oil pumps (which in turn ate the camshaft when it seized).

I know lots of people who absolutely swear by newegg, but every single time I have even been present when one of their shipments arrived (I didn't have to be the one who placed the order), the box had at least one DOA part in it -- even if there was only one. I have to be desparate to order from them -- and order canon fodder and hope what I want arrives intact. I remember trying to get a video card. I went through three 8800 GTXs before giving up and going to Best Buy.
 
i've learned something from building TURBO cars
Cheap and reliable...buy 2. (or something like that)

if you go cheap on SD cars, please don't get pissed when you lost the most important video of your life. you deserve it for being cheap!.
 
Why nobody mentioned Panasonic SD cards?
I have 2 of them and they are really good.
Are they not available in the US?
 
I have used quite a variety of cards, with only one problem. I've been using SDHC for quite some time before I bought my HMC40, and it works with older cards, though naturally, the value of a 1GB card, originally bundled with an audio recorder, is rather minimal with the HMC40. I have several 32GB Patriot cards, which have never been a problem.

The one problem I did have is with one SanDisk card. This is particuarly odd, because unlike most vendors, SanDisk makes their own Flash Memory. So you'd expect them to be among the most consistent. I was out to shoot my daughter's soccer game and realized I had no memory cards with me.. oops. For serious shoots, I always bring a gear bag, but this was a last-minute thing. But I was early, so I went to a local discount store. They didn't have anything large enough for the whole game, but they did have 8GB cards, from SanDisk, both rated Class 4.

So I shoot the first half just dandy, then swap cards. The HMC40 instantly rejects higher performance video (I shoot soccer at 720/60p) on that card -- supposedly identical to the other. No explanation... weird. I can record at one of the lesser 1080/60i modes, so I do, but very strange.

I get home, offload the card, then play around some. I run a flash memory benchmark on both "good" and "bad" cards -- performance is identical, both well into class 4 territory. I try the "bad" card on my TM700... just dandy, even at 1080/60p. Go figure. I had planned to hunt down a utility that reads out the card's own spec data (there's a data block on each SDHC card that describes the card's speed, capacity, maybe other stuff), but never did that. This card is now "permanently" at home in my Zoom H4n, just to help ensure it never encouters the HMC40. Probably should have brought it back, but it was a bit of a drive, and heck, you always need more memory.
 
Ok here is another ? I put in a SanDisk class 4 8gb into the hmc40 I get a message "can not record ph or ah onto this card" then I put in a Kodak class 2 and it recorded fine. The class 4 will record in HG 1080/60i and HE 1080/60i. Any ideas why it wont record in the other formats? Just a bad card?
 
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