SD vs HD
- Thread starter Nasser
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Personally I make a decision to go SD or HD before I start shooting and I weight the pro and cons. If I'm on a tight deadline and I'm expecting to do a lot of post-production work like special FX then I would go native SD because it saves me a lot of time rendering. If the project is relatively short or I have plenty of time then I would go HD and do a downconvert in the timeline. I've only done the resizing the frame thing once, and it's simply a pain, at least in Premiere. When imported into and SD timeline the original HD sequences are limited to 720x480 while the footage is not and so I have to resize every single cut instead of just resizing the sequence itself.
Going HD has a lot of post-production limitation. My last film, the final cut of which is 33 minutes, was done entirely in HD 24F and I ran into a lot of problems. I discovered that when loaded with over six hours of HDV footage, Premiere 2.0 becomes very unstable whenever it runs out of memory, which is often. There were frequent crashes, some of which cost me valuable time. If it wasn't for the 24F downconversion pulldown bug I mentioned, I would have downconvert in camera and do the whole thing in SD. The only reason I didn't shoot native SD to begin with was because I discovered another potential bug in the A1's 24p SD mode that screws up the 2:3:3:2 pulldown pattern. I didn't have time to do further tests but at the time the issue was big enough to make the SD mode unreliable.
PaPa
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how do you go about downconverting in your timeline? Is that not the same thing as doing motion -> resize ?
oh, and are you running premier pro 2?
I need to find out who is running CS3, and if they found a way to do 24f on it. the adobe preset is taking my 24f footage and reading it as 44.97 fps@!!!! pp2.0 is fine though.
oh, and are you running premier pro 2?
I need to find out who is running CS3, and if they found a way to do 24f on it. the adobe preset is taking my 24f footage and reading it as 44.97 fps@!!!! pp2.0 is fine though.
I have CS3 as well but I didn't really like it. Aside from the time-remap feature there's really not that much of an improvement. And they removed a few features like the handy DVD authoring on the timeline. Plus CS3 just seems more buggy to me.
For PP2.0 I just do a straight export from the HD timeline at 720x480, usually as an MPEG for DVD. If I encode to the web then I export uncompressed avi and compress with Quicktime Pro.
Resizing in an SD timeline isn't as simple as dropping in the project and resizing the sequence. It trips me up the first time I tried to do it because the sequence imported simply crops the middle portion of the footage to 720x480, and there's nothing to scale out to. Then I realized that as soon as I import the HD project, the sequence that used to be HD is now limited to SD res, so I would have to go into the sequence and manually resize the footage. It's a bit more work but the one time I did it the result seemed to be sharper. Just haven't found it to be worth the effort in the last couple of projects.
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PaPa
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so have you managed to get 24f working in HD timeline in CS3?
look in the premier section, i haev a huge issue. maybe u can help?
it's here:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=116746
look in the premier section, i haev a huge issue. maybe u can help?
it's here:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=116746
I actually just fired up CS3 and imported some 24F stuff. It's interpreted properly as 23.976, so... I have no idea what the difference between my copy and yours is. One possible thing is note is that all my footage is captured in 2.0. So that might be where CS3 screwed up. Try an alternate capture program like HDVsplit, capture 24F through there and then import into CS3 to see if you still have the same problem.