Sample AVCHD clip from AG-HMC150

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Hi all. I've uploaded a sample clip from the AG-HMC150 (along with a comparison from a clip from a Canon XHA1). See what you think at this link: http://www.hownowvideo.com/videos.html

Also, on the Videos link at the same site, I've done a quick review of the AG_HMC150. Let me know if you want any other tests done and I can post more videos.

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Hey great. Sorry I didn't see your site a month ago, I just bought an HMC150 from B&H and would have liked to support your site via the link.

Good reviews, thanks. I look forward to seeing what else you come up with :).
 
I couldn't open the single .mts file with FCP 6, as I guess it needs the whole folder structure from camera or something. I could open it with Toast, but I haven't got the latest version so I was limited to exporting mpeg2, which I didn't bother.

Edit: I did try the Canon clip with FCP (converting it to Pro res first), secondary correction was easy and smooth, adding contrast made all the difference. I have to buy me some HD camera.
 
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Not surprisingly I like the 150's image much better.
No doubt the Canon is sharper and video like.


Overall the website is nice.
Very nice.:thumbsup:
 
I couldn't open the single .mts file with FCP 6, as I guess it needs the whole folder structure from camera or something. I could open it with Toast, but I haven't got the latest version so I was limited to exporting mpeg2, which I didn't bother.

Edit: I did try the Canon clip with FCP (converting it to Pro res first), secondary correction was easy and smooth, adding contrast made all the difference. I have to buy me some HD camera.
In FCP use Log & Transfer - It knows the file structure, just navigate to the private folder. From there it reads the proxies and transcodes the footage to ProRes
 
Yes, I've tried the log & transfer, but I haven't got it to work. I'm not sure if it's because I use an iMac, 20" Dual core Intel (few years old).

I tried to access some AVCHD footage from Canon HF11 some time ago, same thing: didn't open anything. I could get it to search something from the camera's folder, but it took like 15 minutes and still couldn't get it to import anything.
The same footage was imported using Mac Pro however (that was slow too to recognize AVCHD), so I guess a Mac pro is a must.


ADD EDIT: I updated the AVC-Intra codec, but the .mts still didn't work straight in my FCP6.
I did however manage to export the HMC clip to Pro Res HQ (Using Toast 9). I'll do some comparisons.
 
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An .MTS file will not open in any way that I have tried either. I use FCP suite 2 and have tried all the ways mentioned but have not figured out how to do it.
I have read elsewhere that you must have the entire folder that holds the .mts file to be able to read it. And no where have I found an entire file to test it with.
Everyone just seems to post the individual file.
 
If anyone has a whole folder please share so that those of us looking at updating our equipment will know if our systems will work.
I would really appreciate it and I'm sure others would too.
Thank you, in advance.
 
Found HMC-150 Raw Footage (complete folder structure)

Found HMC-150 Raw Footage (complete folder structure)

I posted about this in another topic today - Mark Von Lanken has some on his website, which should be found with a Google search.

I found this link on the first page of Google results for "mark von lanken hmc150 sample": http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=169737

In that topic, Mark posts that he has footage available here: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/panasonic-avccam-camcorders/145770-hmc150-wedding-highlight.html

Which oddly enough doesn't have any sample footage that I can see. But I know I've seen it on his site somewhere, so I googled "site:vontraining.net" and the second result was "Download HMC150 Raw Footage", in which he links to this page on his website: http://vontraining.net/HMC150Preview/index.php.

Whoops, so that page also only has a series of .MTS files, not the whole folder structure. But I remember downloading a complete folder structure before I bought my camera, so I checked and it's exact file name is "HMC150_Test_Footage_Sept_25_2008". So, hoping there are very few pages with that exact title on the internet, I ran a Google search for that. The second result is "Panasonic AG-HMC150 discussion where a member by the name of "Bastien Bouchard" posts the link to this file: http://hdmuse.com/HMC150_Test_Footage_Sept_25_2008.zip, which thankfully, seems to still work :).

Be sure to thank that guy if you can, and try not to abuse his download link. It's about 1.5GB and I'm sure it is not cheap for him to host it for us.

Have fun
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What worries me here is he says for HMC150 editing, I need at least a quad core.

I was planning on getting a MacBook Pro for this - and they are Core2Duo.
 
Sounds like the problem is NOT really with the Mac, since you have to transcode editing is great on it... i have a 17MBP 2.5 and works awesome. If you have the new FCP7 you can pick from multiple ProRes options to work on, but ProResLT works really good and looks even better!

And remember that even on a quad core if you don't transcode AVCHD could be a pig if you try to do color grading/correcting or any other effects!
 
Calm down mac users... ;) I was just saying that if it's hard to edit native AVCHD on a mac it's not the fault of the HMC.

A quad core laptop running the latest Premiere CS4 can edit native AVCHD files without transcoding. It is possible.
 
I don't believe any Mac user was upset as much as clarifying what is needed.

As to native editing RT on any computer -- my reading is that it is still a dicey experience.

720p seems to work fairly well, but 1080 is not as pleasant.

For those who define "editing" as the full experience - native, RT, multiple tracks as needed, grading, fx and titling, I just see that as being very pleasant on either a Mac or PC.
 
I don't believe any Mac user was upset as much as clarifying what is needed.

As to native editing RT on any computer -- my reading is that it is still a dicey experience.

720p seems to work fairly well, but 1080 is not as pleasant.

For those who define "editing" as the full experience - native, RT, multiple tracks as needed, grading, fx and titling, I just see that as being very pleasant on either a Mac or PC.


Gotta agree with ya here.

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