Samish Lake - ala Disjecta

FilmBoy77 said:
wow. this quality is making me change my mind about getting the dvx100b. nice shots. i wouldve liked to hear how well the camera picks up audio though. cool.
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Thanks glad you liked it. As others have said- if you have the coin, get the HVX it is worth every penny.

As for the audio- the on camera mic's pick up audio well- I assume just as well as the DVX does. I'm not a big fan of using the on camera mic's so I have not done any testing / comparison of the on camera mic though. Something that is kind of cool is that the HVX records 4 channels of audio when recording in 1080p. You record the 2 channels from the XLR input, and 2 from the on camera mic, or all four can be from the on camera mic. Just an FYI.
 
SurJones said:
As always pants wetting beautiful footage ... With a lake named Shamis, I would have expected some Irish Jib music:)
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Thanks.

Yeah, I believe that Samish is an Native American name, does sound irish ...

It is funny- this lake, which is about 1.5 hours north of Seattle is Called SAMISH, there is another lake in the greater Seattle area that is called SAMAMISH- bit I assume are Native American, I wonder what the difference in meaning is?
 
Alexa said:
loved it. more people should watch stuff like that. then they'd be less impressed inclined to feed the mind with total vapid crap.

great with morning tea
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Thanks, glad you liked it.
 
obendega said:
Whoa, trippy, I used to live a couple miles from there. Gorgeous area and you did it justice.
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Thanks. Yeah, I love this area (NW). Not many places where you can go see the ocean, be on top of a mountian, and then be in a desert area all within one day.
 
Justyn said:
The footage looks awesome. Didn't get to say that. Really impressive.. Again.. back to this. That lake and footage does look gorgeous. How big is the lake? Reminds me of one I used to go to in NH>...
Thanks for showing...
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Thanks. The lake is not that big, I'd say probably only about 5 miles around. My Aunts place is on the far end of the lake, where it is not super busy, which is nice and relaxing. The other end has a public dock and beach- and people swarm all over.
 
Elton said:
Quite nice, 235. Makes me miss the Pacific NW.

Can you give any details with your camera settings? Cinelike V, D, detail, master ped etc.?
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I'll go one better and post the scene file. If you want you can download it at the link below. I'm still playing with all of the settings and trying to figure out what I like best for various situations, so this is just a work in progress. But I tend to favor the more saturated look.

Here you go:
http://www.235studios.com/scenefiles/SCENE1.TXT

(Right click Save As)
 
Beautiful stuff man! Makes me want to take a trip out there and do some shooting. :)
When I got to the first shot of the boats in the water after the closeup of the buoy shot I was opening up Travelocity's web page to check flight fares. :)

Now if we could get rid of the houses, the boats and the chain link fences, I'd be in 7th Heaven.

We have a place just like that in Iowa off of exit 35 on I-380.... No, that's a cornfield.
It's gotta be off of exit 25. No, that's a cornfield too.
I think maybe it's where I-380 and I-80 meet. No, that's a bean field.

Well, maybe we don;t have anything like that here. :)
 
LOL!!! Thats great, glad you liked it.

I think it is funny how developed places like these get. When my aunt first got her place there were not may people there. But as word spread, more people bought, and more development came. I like it a lot there- as there is still a lot of beauty. But I do laugh, as now people leave the city to get away from it all by coming to another "city".
 
Since when does the HVX have an intense vertical highlght band? the openng shot panning up. theres a huge long Vertical smear. Thats bizzare.

That the first time i've seen it do that.....
 
Since I was shooting directly into the sun- there is the same "smear" in the closing shot as well. Both of which where directly into the sun. (I did have it filtered- ND and Pol. so the lens should be fine.)

Have you not had this happen when shooting directly into the sun? Hmmm, I'll have to do some more testing- as I thought that it was just due to the angle of the sun and the camera lens ....
 
its happened but liek on a 1 chip. i am not even sure its happened on my DVX.

maybe when the iris is at F 16 it causes a smear,
 
Hmmm, interesting. I never have the lens closed more then f5.6 in any of those shots, instead I just add ND filters and the like ....
 
Thanks Ryan, I'm honored. I have a few comments for you...

1. I tend to choose music that is a little more dynamic. The piece here for me was quite monotonous and made the film feel longer than it is.
2. A lot of your shots were pretty generic in nature. What I mean by this is that if you look around, you will find the character of a place that is exclusive of typical wide landscape shots. Find something unique about the place and place it in the foreground. Basically, you want your viewer to know that there is something different about where you are shooting than out their backyard.
3. Your edits seemed a little uncertain both in timing and where you chose to cut the actual footage. It looked to me like you hadn't fully steadied your camera for a second or two at the beginning of some of the edits. It came across a little sloppy to me.
4. The cut at the very beginning, I think it was the flowers or branches was very odd. You had framed the shot and then went to a slightly different focal length for no apparent reason.
5. I think you could do a little color correction to unify some of the shots.
6. Try to think in terms of themes when you edit this kind of stuff. You had some long shots that seemed to be repeated a little later. They weren't actually the same shots but the framing was very similar so, to my senses, I felt like I had already seen the shot.
7. Tilts are great but the nice effect is diminished when you put too many tilts together in an edit. It felt like you did that at some point in the film.
8. I hate any kind of zooms, even if they are ultra slow but that is just a totally subjective thing on my part and is totally acceptable in this genre.
9. Try to find more animate objects to shoot. There are always animals around. Hell, you might even find a duck.

Anyway, just my thoughts. I'm flattered that my work inspired you. Keep doing what you are doing.

D.
 
First off, let me say thanks for the detailed response- it is VERY appreciated. Now on to specific comments:

disjecta said:
1. I tend to choose music that is a little more dynamic. The piece here for me was quite monotonous and made the film feel longer than it is.
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I agree. the music is just from a royalty free site stock20.com. I have yet to really find any stock music that I like. I have enjoyed what you have used- and like the quality of Killer tracks very much. But what I do not like about KT is the interface / time it takes to find a good track. Maybe it is just my lack of ability to search under the right terms, but I never seem to find quite what I'm looking for. And the preview of tracks is frustrating- as just about every 5 - 10 seconds there is a delay / pause, and I'm on a broadband connection..... grrrrrr..... Anyway, yep, I'm still looking / listening to find better tracks to cut to.


disjecta said:
2. A lot of your shots were pretty generic in nature. What I mean by this is that if you look around, you will find the character of a place that is exclusive of typical wide landscape shots. Find something unique about the place and place it in the foreground. Basically, you want your viewer to know that there is something different about where you are shooting than out their backyard.
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Good sugestion. Thanks for the input.

disjecta said:
3. Your edits seemed a little uncertain both in timing and where you chose to cut the actual footage. It looked to me like you hadn't fully steadied your camera for a second or two at the beginning of some of the edits. It came across a little sloppy to me.
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Noted. Yep still crafting my skill in the area of editing scenery footage. It is easier for me to edit dramatic material, as I can feel the beats a lot easier, when someone is talking there are natural beats that fit well when editing. I'm still figuring out what those beats are when it comes to editing nature footage. You hit the nail on the head= I'm still a little uncertain when it come to where those beats are ...

Care to offer any tips / suggestions?

disjecta said:
4. The cut at the very beginning, I think it was the flowers or branches was very odd. You had framed the shot and then went to a slightly different focal length for no apparent reason.
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I probably should have held the first shot instead of the cut. But then again, I knew that cut was a little odd, but I liked the cut on the beat. While not traditional, or maybe what "should be done" I liked how it felt. Yeah it is out of place- especially everything else is not cut. Probably would have been better to decided to go one way or the other- untraditional, or traditional. On it's own it does stand out.


disjecta said:
5. I think you could do a little color correction to unify some of the shots.
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True enough.

disjecta said:
6. Try to think in terms of themes when you edit this kind of stuff. You had some long shots that seemed to be repeated a little later. They weren't actually the same shots but the framing was very similar so, to my senses, I felt like I had already seen the shot.
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That is a good point, would you care to elaborate some more on thinking in terms of themes?

disjecta said:
7. Tilts are great but the nice effect is diminished when you put too many tilts together in an edit. It felt like you did that at some point in the film.
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Yep, I noticed that too- I didn't realize I had so many tilts until I came back to edit the footage.... oops. I used what I footage I had, and that is something that I will make a contious effort to avoid next time.

disjecta said:
8. I hate any kind of zooms, even if they are ultra slow but that is just a totally subjective thing on my part and is totally acceptable in this genre.
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Yeah, I do not like them either- as zooms do not feel natural- it is not something that we expierence in everyday life. I decided to go with a zoom in that shot as I wanted to start on a detail (the boat) and then reveal its environment (the lake). I'll have to think through other creative ways to reveal the same thing.

disjecta said:
9. Try to find more animate objects to shoot. There are always animals around. Hell, you might even find a duck.
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Yeah, I think getting up earilier would have helpd me more as most of the animals seemed to dissapear once the water skiers where out in their boats. And then the one animal I did find (The Blue heron) just sat there forever, disinterested in the people around.

disjecta said:
Anyway, just my thoughts. I'm flattered that my work inspired you. Keep doing what you are doing.

D.
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Thanks again for watching and commenting. Much appreciated- any info on my questions / replies would be great.
 
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