stephenlnoe
Well-known member
Well said amigo.jrv3034 said:
Fixed len's cams usually try to offer the best range for most situations. I'm sure the HVX is no exception.
I'd rather have a camera body and different lens combinations, myself.
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Fixed len's cams usually try to offer the best range for most situations. I'm sure the HVX is no exception.
I'd rather have a camera body and different lens combinations, myself.
Mr. Blonde
RED Advocate
Are you guys kidding, I am totally with him about the fixed lens issue....Fixed glass is ridiculous if you're serious about film making. You all bicker about the fact that quality glass costs an arm and a leg, but hello....who actually buys their glass, that's what renting is for. I personally will purchase the hvx and have enjoyed the dvx alot, but if it came down to it I'd prefer interchangable lenses anyday. I'll definitely be looking forward to the 35 adaptor for my hvx.
The zoom range of the fixed lens on the HvX is fine for my purposes... an indie film production.
If I do need other lenses, it will be the ulra super wide or ultra super tele ends... and I don't forsee need for those extremes.
When I was a lot younger (yeah, I'm an old geezer) I began amassing a huge collection of lenses for my still camera, in case I'd one day "need" them. I ended up using my favourte two lenses while the rest gathered dust in the closet. I can count the number of times I used my fisheye lens on my hand.
The only reason I'd want an video/still dslr with lens interchangeability is if the stock lens sucks (unsharp, soft, flare-proned etc) and I want another one. So far, from all accounts, the images from the stock HVX lens looks great.
Renting lenses only make sense if you know that your project will make money. For us no-budget indie filmmakers, that's money we don't have.
If I do need other lenses, it will be the ulra super wide or ultra super tele ends... and I don't forsee need for those extremes.
When I was a lot younger (yeah, I'm an old geezer) I began amassing a huge collection of lenses for my still camera, in case I'd one day "need" them. I ended up using my favourte two lenses while the rest gathered dust in the closet. I can count the number of times I used my fisheye lens on my hand.
The only reason I'd want an video/still dslr with lens interchangeability is if the stock lens sucks (unsharp, soft, flare-proned etc) and I want another one. So far, from all accounts, the images from the stock HVX lens looks great.
Renting lenses only make sense if you know that your project will make money. For us no-budget indie filmmakers, that's money we don't have.
The thing is, there really aren't any 1/3" HD lenses. You could slap a 2/3" lens on there of course but I'm not certain it would resolve all the lines necessary. Why? The 1/3" sensor is so damn small any lens made for it will have to be made to exacting specifications (the smaller the sensor the greater the resolving power has to be). I really don't see the benefit unless someone starts producing high quality 1/3" HD lenses.
That's just my opinion of course
MattC
Veteran
That is a problem with HD... For the XL2 I have all three lenses and use them all quite a bit.
But I have to tell you, I saw footage shot with that camera with a P+S mini35 that attaches directly to the camera body with a special built in relay lens....
It was unbelievable. I think that's where the camera really shines. But that is some serious dough - definitely a rental item.
But I have to tell you, I saw footage shot with that camera with a P+S mini35 that attaches directly to the camera body with a special built in relay lens....
It was unbelievable. I think that's where the camera really shines. But that is some serious dough - definitely a rental item.
wabbit
Evil has Ears
Mr. Blonde said:
I have no intention of "filmmaking" with our HVX's. Independent filmmakers make up a portion of the visitors to this forum and people that will buy this camera, but definately not all of them. No matter what choices Panasonic makes in designing a camera, some people would be annoyed and wish they would have gone the other way.
Best
master-of-light
New member
Lenses make a huge difference in the quality of the recorded image. I did a test when I bought my DSR-500ws. The dealer let me compare a Canon Pro IF 18x lens, the $2000 standard issue "corporate" lens, and a Canon J16ax8BIRS Broadcast zoom. I could not believe the difference between the two lenses! The overall sharpness and color clarity of the Broadcast lens was far greater than the Pro version. I ended up spending $10,000 for the J16ax8BIRS, the same price as the Sony DSR-500ws body! However, I never regretted the deciscion. I recently rented a Sony HDV camera. Nice picture, but my DSR-500 blew it away! HDV vs. DV, 1/3" chips vs. 2/3" chips and a great lens make a huge quality difference.
master-of-light said:
Interchangeable lenses are great if they're affordable... and good.
When I bought the Canon 10D dslr some years ago, I tried out every zoom in the store. Most lenses were crap, especially the stock kit lens... which I think is a conspiracy to force buyers to get more expensive lenses.
I ended up buying an expensive Canon "L" lens which was razor sharp. Expensive is around $1000.... though I've never regretted the purchase, it sure dinged my wallet.... and it made me think long and hard about getting another "L" lens.
Now that I'm acquiring video equipment, I find everything is more expensive by a factor of 10! 10 G's for a lens is out of my league.
I don't expect the HVX lens to match the Canon Broadcast lens... I just hope the HVX lens is decent enough.
stephenlnoe
Well-known member
This is exacly why many of us are waiting patiently to see what the 13x lens can deliver for the HD-100. It is also a $10K lens that fit's on the Hd-100's mount.master-of-light said:
We'll see..