GH5 S1H Users?

That is true about the rolling shutter but mostly at 6K wich is not a feature most people will want to use anyway I know I will be hooting mostly in 1080 and some 4K and there the RS isn't an issue. Im prefer the heft of the S1H I even add battery grip it makes it better for smooth handholding. Again the GH5 is a great camera and there is no reason to not b e happy with it.

sgttom said:
The only thing the GH5 beats the S1H in is rolling shutter. Otherwise the GH5 wins if you want a smaller or lighter system. The S1H is a huge camera, in the mirrorless realm that is.
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icarusfilm said:
That is true about the rolling shutter but mostly at 6K wich is not a feature most people will want to use anyway I know I will be hooting mostly in 1080 and some 4K and there the RS isn't an issue. Im prefer the heft of the S1H I even add battery grip it makes it better for smooth handholding. Again the GH5 is a great camera and there is no reason to not b e happy with it.
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Wasn't trying to diss the S1H, just mentioning where the GH5 comes out ahead, regardless of personal preferences. I generally prefer heavier cameras as well at least for video. The GH5 video quality does leave me wanting but it works very well for certain things especially at its price point.
 
I own the S1H and the GH5S, and I've been seeing post about the S1H on here and on the Panasonic Cinema Cam forum. I guess it would be okay to post here, as this is the closest in form factor.

With that said, if you are considering it, just buy it! It is better in every way except autofocus and physical weight.
 
It's a fair comparison. Price difference and sensor size aren't for everyone categorically exclusive. They are factors, but in making a comparison they are in many ways similar tools with key meaningful differences.

I agree with estarkey. The physical weight of the GH5 can be an advantage, I find in long days going handheld it is just easier and more freeing to work with quickly and helps the tool disappear into my creativity. On the other hand, the S1H is still adequately small and light - it's the lenses that add the most weight, depending on what you choose. It could also be an advantage to have the extra of the S1H for added stability.

I don't use AF so I can't meaningfully comment, except I have seen more positive things about the S1H AutoFocus from those who have really used it than I have negative, though it is not industry leading. But I use all MF. For MF I do not think it is any harder to keep things in focus than a GH camera if you want equivalent DOF, you obviously stop down extra for FF to maintain the same look. Obviously, FF affords the opportunity to move shallower which naturally becomes difficult to keep in focus, but that's hardly a con, it's just a physical reality that the S1H allows for and the GHx does not.

If the primary concern is "what will I lose by moving to the S1H", other than a bump in weight (body, but also lenses)... nothing. There are the differences of moving to FF of course. I suspect that GH6 will pull a lot of tricks from the S1H hat (great improvements to menus, buttons, little features like the red record box around the whole LCD, etc.).

S1, as mentioned, is a bit more of a nuanced answer. You maintain *most* of the IQ of the S1H (but moire won't be as well controlled, and the dual ISO means you'll start losing more DR as you push the ISO higher). Besides 4K60p 10-bit internal, you lose some UI items like shutter angle, the red record box, better codec and VFR options, among other things which you can find online. Besides the faster CPU, you're paying for a lot of creature comforts in the "H" model. For me, they are absolutely worth it... YMMV.
 
IMG_3169.jpgthe way i use the s1H makes it actually lighter and better balanced for handheld work than most gh5 setups:
use TC for audio sync the tentacle TC generator weighs like a book of matches and i add a very lightweight mic on top- no xlr module with receivers and xlr cables. i also use leica m lenses that weigh a third of what their DSLR equivalents weigh this 35 1.4 zeiss weighs 380 grams.
 
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