S1H - Anyone thinking about selling for A7s3- thoughts

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bzz

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hi there,
I am considering moving to sony - anyone else in the same boat. Part of me thinks it is not worth it but the AF is a big deal for me - the rest of it I can live with it
The one thing that I like about the s1h is the ability to move to super 35 sensor in 4k which allows for more flexible focal lengths on the lenses. Don't think you can do this on the a7s3 which is a big mark against for me - prob. stay with Pana but my head has been turned. Anyone else thinking the same ..
 
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If Sony fixes the heavy noise reduction at high ISOs, I'll buy one for shooting behind the scenes on movie sets. But especially in my own creative work, image problems like that have to take priority over something like autofocus. I have two S1H bodies and am very happy with their color fidelity, dynamic range, and feature set. So an A7Siii would be "in addition to". I don't think I'll replace the S1H cameras until we get a full frame "EVA2" or a hypothetical Varicam Mini LF.
 
S1H ibis and super siqqqq 3:2 6k mode win for me, I don’t think the a7s iii is a replacement for me. The ibis on the a7s iii is still trash compared to the Panasonic and gimmie that full 3:2 sensor or gtfo. :love4:
 
bzz said:
hi there,
I am considering moving to sony - anyone else in the same boat.
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I had an S1, not an S1H, but I sold it and am buying an A7SIII.

I bought the S1 last year because I needed a Ronin-s-friendly low-light beast ASAP. It was always in the back of my mind that I might trade it in for something with good AF and no-crop 4K60p.

I'm a decent focus puller and can pull manually on the Ronin-S with the focus motor and wheel. But for shots where I track in on a subject and get close, or for shots where I'm following someone at close-range with shallow DOF, Canon or Sony AF could do a better job than me and on the first try.

There are many excellent features of the A7SIII and I hope it will fulfill its role for me for years. The S1H has some advantages over it, but for my needs the A7SIII is the better choice
 
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I have an S1H and C300 MKIII and I now have the A7SIII on pre-order (i'll make a decision to buy this or not when its in stock). Each camera has its place. I certainly wouldn't sell my S1H for an A7SIII. The 6K is useful for those odd jobs where the client wants stills from the footage or higher resolution for a commercial. I actually filmed a huge series of educational films last week with 2 x S1H's and the production company I was filming for said they were going to sell their cameras and buy 2 of them. The other thing I really like about this camera is that its fantastic for event filming because of the dual native ISO and ergonomically its a pleasure to use. The WFM is useful for exposure and its light so I can handhold it all day, where as my C300MKIII would be too heavy and the A7SIII for me, wouldn't be as easy to use and doesn't have the amazing IS the S1H has.
 
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I think will sell all the gh5s stuff- lenses etc. and pick up sony - that way the af is not an issue
 
boosh said:
I have an S1H and C300 MKIII and I now have the A7SIII on pre-order (i'll make a decision to buy this or not when its in stock). Each camera has its place. I certainly wouldn't sell my S1H for an A7SIII. The 6K is useful for those odd jobs where the client wants stills from the footage or higher resolution for a commercial. I actually filmed a huge series of educational films last week with 2 x S1H's and the production company I was filming for said they were going to sell their cameras and buy 2 of them. The other thing I really like about this camera is that its fantastic for event filming because of the dual native ISO and ergonomically its a pleasure to use. The WFM is useful for exposure and its light so I can handhold it all day, where as my C300MKIII would be too heavy and the A7SIII for me, wouldn't be as easy to use and doesn't have the amazing IS the S1H has.
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What glass do people use on S1h?
 
Since most of my PL lenses under 75mm won't cover the FF sensor, I use a Sigma 35mm f/1.4 (L-mount) and a Lumix 70-200 f/2.8 (L-mount) for 90% of my shooting. Both of the lenses are excellent and I would buy them again.
 
I mainly use EF glass as I use the same lenses on my C300MKIII. On shoots I usually bring the Canon 100mm 2.8 macro, Tamron 24-70 2.8 with IS, an old 50mm Leica Summilux 1.4, Tamron 15-35 2.8 with IS, Tamron 35mm 1.4 and Canon 70-300 4-5.6. I don't see too many people using Tamron glass but their SP series of lenses are outstanding, just as sharp as Canon or Sigma and in some cases they're sharper. Their 35mm is known as the sharpest 35mm out there. One of the reasons I like them is that many of their lenses have IS and the autofocus seems to work just as good as the Canon lenses on my C300.
 
+1 for Tamron 24-70 2.8

It lives on my Speedboosted GH5 for 90% of clips and I also use it extensively for Canon 5D3 stills
 
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Or no-crop 4k60p.

But yes - I could live with cropped 60p. I'm switching for AF.
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Or if you need 4K 120fps. There actually aren't a lot of cameras that can do full frame 4K capture at 120fps. And the A7S III does it with a 1:1 pixel readout so the resulting footage looks pretty clean from what we have seen so far. And it records sound in this mode.

Even among higher-end cinema cameras, 4K 120fps isn't a super common feature. I think the Sony Venice can do this, but only in a 2.39:1 aspect ratio; for 17:9 or 16:9 aspect ratios, the maximum frame rate is lower. Alexa LF is a similar situation where the frame rates are limited when using the full sensor height for 16:9 or 17:9 capture. The RED cameras shoot higher frame rates with a sensor crop. The C300 Mark III and Ursa Mini Pro 4.6K can do 4K 120, but have Super 35 sensors.

Once you start pushing higher shutter speeds needed for higher frame rates, the additional light gathering of the larger sensor can often be helpful.

So for people that do a lot of slow motion, the A7S III seems like the best option at the price point. And probably by a pretty decent margin.
 
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