Rumors of new Nikon DSLRs

steventimothy

steventimothy

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http://nikonrumors.com/2010/04/15/rumors-started-flowing-3-new-nikon-dlsr-in-the-pipeline.aspx

Their line is getting a little stinky, and should be due for a refresh, so this rings true.

I hope they have the guts to go all-in on the HD and not worry about butting heads with the still side. But at the moment I think the 5D and 7D are eating their full-frame and high-end APS-C lunches.

It would be nice to see a new Nikon D90 type camera as spec'd at Nikon Rumors, to compete with the t2i (or 7d), hopefully matching and maybe adding extra features.

And hopefully the long awaited D700x type will be coming to take on the 5D, again, hopefully, matching or beating the HD features and price, for those full-frame types.
 
Well, Nikon needs to do something. I have a D300 which is still a great camera for photography, and I don't see anything on the market that would want me to exchange it for. But, I feel the momentum is with Canon - Nikon was early in the game with the D90, but things have moved much faster for Canon with video. Part of it may be that Nikon doesn't have a video division, but it's becoming almost a requirement to have video capability in your still camera (sure there are pro purists who disdain it, but they are old and dying out), and Nikon not having a pure video division is handicapped, it seems. Pity, because I have a lot of Nikon glass, but if they don't step up their game, I may have to look to Canon - I want to shoot some shorts, and maybe even a super low budget feature with one of these. Anyhow, I just feel that Nikon is going to lose market share if they don't do something dramatic - and by that I mean they have to do better than Canon, otherwise they'll always be the poor cousin chasing to catch up. Nikon, are you listening to the market? Cause as far as I can see, you are getting your a$$ kicked in the last year or so.
 
I think Nikon has the least to lose by going full on with the HD aspect of the DSLR, perhaps even having some kind of raw output, improving aliasing & moire, etc. Since they don't have a dedicated video division, they don't have to worry about canibalising any video products. Canon, Panasonic, Sony et al. have to worry about their pro video divisions, who are probably complaining a lot about the DSLR's cutting into their sales.

As long as it doesn't impact still capabilities, why wouldn't they go nuts with the HD on their DSLR's? As Canon's proved it, just because the market is small for "filmmakers", doesn't mean much when you introduce a new paradigm.

What Canon's shown is that their existing market segment is starting to demand these HD features, and they've create a whole new market on top of that.
 
The only thing I don't care for with video on the DSLRs is having the shutter curtain open for so long.

The original 5D had some real sensor dust issues which showed up in your photos given small aperatures.

The 5DMKII has a sensor vibration cleaner, but I have yet to shoot a fair amount of video and check the sensor for dust. This is the only issue I could see with having video on a still camera. But if you don't shoot video, this would be a non-issue.

Historically, Nikon seems to study then introduce. They really pushed the envelope on the D300 & D700. I would bet they will come up with some great cameras. Canon really threw the gauntlet down when they released the 5DMKII and it had 21 megapixles with all of its performance.

Interesting how cameras are mainly about sensor development these days.
 
Nikon has been sitting on their asses as far as video is concerned for wayyy too long. The came out with the D90, which got the ball rolling, and they've had some interesting marketing campaigns about indie filmmaking with it, but they stopped competing once the 5DmarkII came out. At this point, the video DSLRs have been around long enough and gotten used enough so now we know what's expected, what can be done, etc. The technology already exists! They just need to put it all together.
 
I've been sitting on all my current Nikon gear waiting on them to fully jump into the video side of things but the little T2i is starting to call my name.
 
ethan cooper said:
I've been sitting on all my current Nikon gear waiting on them to fully jump into the video side of things but the little T2i is starting to call my name.
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You can easily get an adapter on ebay to fit your Nikons on any camera or 35mm rig. The adapters work well.
 
funny enough, Nikon really has some of the best advantages in the DSLR video market if they really wanted to push it. They have the best noise reduction and interpretation algorithm out of all the cameras, especially with the d300s. It's cleaner, the noise looks better (it's black and white noise instead of colored noise) and when you get into the extreme high ISO's it is STILL decently usable, similar to the nikon d3x and it's hyper ISO stills. But the issue is, when was the last time nikon attempted a REAL video camera? Is this even a market they care about? who knows... what experience do they have with video codecs, compression, audio, etc. etc. etc.

they could higher the best and the brightest to figure that out for them but they may just wanna stay in there happy world of still photography where they still do very well.
 
Nikon will have to care more about video (they started this whole thing anyway!) because their core user base will demand it (not us).
 
It's interesting how they started marketing their D90 with Ashton Kutcher running around taking video, and then they did have a couple of indie filmmaking (documentary-style) contests. I guess they just wanted to play off the fad capability of shooting video out of these things. But now you can get a little Flip cam for under 100 bucks that shoots 720p or higher. I really doubt Nikon will/can do anything on the video side to catch up at this point. With Canon, they have had DPs experimenting with the 5DmkII for over a year... and they are really pushing them and giving them the kind of input they need to design a next gen version. Not to mention they already have a dedicated video department. Sounds like they are really listening, and the firmware updates are evidence of that.
 
John Godden said:
Don't hold your breath because Nikon (a) doesn't care about your concerns and (b) doesn't have the expertise for anything more sophisticated than one of the AVCHD variants.
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We will see. It seems very likely that later this year Nikon will release at least 2 new DSLR's that have improved video functionality. It is highly likely that they will have full manual control(their last DSLR released had full manual controls implemented), and there will undoubtably be improved video performance. Their reps have been saying this in public.

I am very interested to see what Nikon offers later this year.
 
Jim Klatt said:
... and there will undoubtedly be improved video performance. Their reps have been saying this in public.

I am very interested to see what Nikon offers later this year.
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Yep. Me too.

I've enjoyed my D90 as a still camera and have stepped up my still business a lot - much more than my motion business, and will likely buy the new D700s(x) (whatever) if it has very good video. But really, I've not been that happy with the video from the D90. If it is static and well lit, it's great.

If the video from the DwhateverFX camera that comes from Nikon prior to Photokina this August is so-so, I might get a D700 and go for the AG-AF100 (if I can scratch the dinero) or just get a GH1 (or GH2). It would still be better than the D90 and would work well with lens attachments. I've been impressed as heck with the clips coming from the little camera.

For whatever reason, Nikon seems to have problems supporting firmware for the D90. I have to believe that it's impossible to fix. There have been too many complaints for them to ignore the problems with no reason. It's likely just not 'fixable'. That's a real pity.

In some of the other forums photographers suggest that Nikon doesn't care about video, which is just silly. Leadership at Nikon is looking at the bottom line. If video counts (and it does), video will be important. I just wish it would be important sooner rather than later.
 
John Godden said:
Don't hold your breath because Nikon (a) doesn't care about your concerns and (b) doesn't have the expertise for anything more sophisticated than one of the AVCHD variants.

JohnG
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lol

"A" doesn't really jive with any consumer-based business model I've ever encountered. Especially in a more estringent economic environment, businesses are doing everything they can to get more consumers to buy whatever it is they're trying to sell. Now more than ever the tail is most certainly wagging the dog.
 
I'm really hoping that the Nikon D3 line comes out with 1080 or 2K. The D3s already kills the canon in low light video, but 720p is killing the Nikon.

Keeping my fingers crossed. Otherwise I'm going with the 5D or 1D.
 
Jim Klatt said:
We will see. It seems very likely that later this year Nikon will release at least 2 new DSLR's that have improved video functionality. It is highly likely that they will have full manual control(their last DSLR released had full manual controls implemented), and there will undoubtably be improved video performance. Their reps have been saying this in public.

I am very interested to see what Nikon offers later this year.
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I too am hoping for a new cam from Nikon that doesn't have all (or most) of the current gotchas.

Just speculating here, but I think Nikon will probably bring a very capable camera to market. However, I would be VERY surprised to see anything more than a ~25 mb/sec AVCHD codec in this new cam. I hope I'm surprised! :shocked:
 
If the coolpix P100 is any indication the next batch of Nikon DSLRs should have 1080p, High Frame Rate recording and h.264 format.
 
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