Rode VideoMic Pro straight into 7D vs Zoom H1?

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eco_bach

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Hi
Anyone do an audio comparision between the Rode VideoMic Pro straight into 7D vs using the Zoom H1 with its internal mics?

Obviously the best solution is to use external mics into the H1, just wondering if a quality mic into the 7D is nearly as good, even wth the AGC kicking in.
 
no. its not good with agc. I even tried a good mic into the h4n then h4n into the 7d via attenuated cable. Doesnt come close to whats recorded on the h4n.
 
No such thing as usable sound out of 7d. You'll have to use a juicedlink, beachtek or an agc hack. Still better off with the 5d, 60d. But number one -- if possible is to record externally.
 
I have a 7D and use both the Juicedlink DT454 and the Zoom H4N. Both are great solutions for recording audio.
Both have their uses, depending on the situation.

The Juicedlink disables the cameras AGC (auto gain control), so you can record crisp, clean audio straight to the camera.
The only drawback is that you can't monitor the audio (that's been recorded to the 7D) while recording. This means
that although it may sound great in the headphones, there's no way to truly know if you're getting good audio until
you stop recording and play it back on your camera. It's a gamble.

I use the Juicedlink for b-roll shooting, or when I'm not too worried about the audio being recorded.

If however, you absolutely, positively need to know that what you're hearing in the headphones IS the audio being
recorded, then you need to use a separate audio recording system like the Zoom H4N.

I use the H4N for interviews, where there's no second chances. Its got to be right the first time.

The only drawback is that you have to sync the audio (from the H4N) to the video (from the camera) in editing.
This isn't really hard, since there is software called Pluraleyes http://www.singularsoftware.com/pluraleyes.html
that does all the work for you. It's just an extra step, and extra steps take time.

If you can only choose one, I think the Zoom H4N + Pluraleyes is the way to go. It may take a little extra time,
but you'll be guaranteed quality audio every time.

Hope that helps.

P.
 
Peter Reynolds said:
I have a 7D and use both the Juicedlink DT454 and the Zoom H4N. Both are great solutions for recording audio.
Both have their uses, depending on the situation.

The Juicedlink disables the cameras AGC (auto gain control), so you can record crisp, clean audio straight to the camera.
The only drawback is that you can't monitor the audio (that's been recorded to the 7D) while recording. This means
that although it may sound great in the headphones, there's no way to truly know if you're getting good audio until
you stop recording and play it back on your camera. It's a gamble.

I use the Juicedlink for b-roll shooting, or when I'm not too worried about the audio being recorded.

If however, you absolutely, positively need to know that what you're hearing in the headphones IS the audio being
recorded, then you need to use a separate audio recording system like the Zoom H4N.

I use the H4N for interviews, where there's no second chances. Its got to be right the first time.

The only drawback is that you have to sync the audio (from the H4N) to the video (from the camera) in editing.
This isn't really hard, since there is software called Pluraleyes http://www.singularsoftware.com/pluraleyes.html
that does all the work for you. It's just an extra step, and extra steps take time.

If you can only choose one, I think the Zoom H4N + Pluraleyes is the way to go. It may take a little extra time,
but you'll be guaranteed quality audio every time.

Hope that helps.

P.
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yup +1
 
A question concerning the operation of these
two devices ( Zoom H1/H4N ). It appears to me
that they can operate as both a stereo microphone
and a sound recorder, both at the same time.
Mount the H1/H4N to your hot shoe, connect the
line/mic out of the H1/H4N to the mic in of the
t2i/t3i/D60.. and the camera will record that.
The recorder can be recording, or not recording,
at the same time.

Thanks
 
Anyone tried using the cable hack that's documented at other places and then using the VideoMic Pro? That hack that was done for the earlier VP mic from Rode? Reason I ask is that sometimes I'm shooting run and gun with the 7D, and I just want to record as clean a voice I can get. This is for short docs for the web, where 'good enough' is ok, and I don't want to be lugging my H4N or MixPre around on the shoot.

Sometimes the 7D has been fine, with an AT897 attached, but with fisheye (10mm) I can see the mic. Need to get a shorter throw mic that can do a decent job, wondered if defeating the AGC by carrying a tiny mp3 player like the video suggests would be needed with the newer Rode? Seems like the answer is yes.

Actually, as I think of it, maybe running into the mixpre, which is pretty lightweight, might be the answer... I think I'll try it. I can likely mount it on my handles.
 
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