Robinhood ....again!

I enjoyed this new Robin Hood. Not the most amazing film ever, and not Ridley Scott's best, but worth seeing if you like the story of Robin Hood or medieval films.

It is more of an "origin" story on how Crowe's character became Robin of the Hood. I'd like to see Scott, Crowe, Blanchett, etc. return for a sequel that covers the more swashbuckling thief/rebel legend of Robin Hood. Basically, if Robin Hood is Batman Begins, then they could do a sequel (using the title Nottingham, which ironically would work great) that would be the Robin Hood equivalent of The Dark Knight. I doubt they'll do it though.
 
Batutta said:
Interesting article about how the revisionist script Nottingham became moldy old Robin Hood again. Gets a little rambly but it gives a picture of what happened--

http://sex-in-a-sub.blogspot.com/2010/05/robbing-from-poor-writer.html
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VERY interesting article. Something tells me Martell isn't going to be working with Ridley any time soon. :Drogar-Happy(DBG):

I just downloaded the Nottingham script to check out.

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It was also interesting to see on the History Channel, "The Real Robin Hood" written and directed by? ...Ridley Scott.
 
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The Patrick Bergin Robin Hood is still my favorite by far.

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Second that. Patrick Bergin, Uma Thurmond, Jeroen Krabbe, Jurgen Prochnow, and the story draws upon post-Conquest Norman-Saxon tensions to drive the action.

I think this one went mostly unnoticed because it was released about the same time as the Costner debacle, but marketing trumps good any day, so...
 
Blaine said:
VERY interesting article. Something tells me Martell isn't going to be working with Ridley any time soon. :Drogar-Happy(DBG):

I just downloaded the Nottingham script to check out.
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I did the same thing, as I am now really curious to see the major differences between Nottingham and the Robin Hood that actually made it to the screen.

I remember seeing a Ridley Scott quote from a recent interview where he said something about Nottingham reading a bit too much like a medieval CSI, and that being the main reason why he was turned off by the material and wanted rewrites.
 
I just got through reading Nottingham. I have mixed feelings about it. I give a lot of credit to Reiff and Voris for putting a new spin on an old story. I can see why Hollywood got excited about it.

My biggest problem with the script was the large amount of exposition, mostly in the first act. With the exception of what could be a good battle scene opening the story, it was really bogged down by the exposition. The dialogue throughout was okay but at times if felt awkward. (Now, I will grant that this is marked as a first draft.)

Robin Hood shows up for the first time on page 39.

Much of the second act becomes a detective story with the Sheriff searching for the real Arrow Killer. We have see Robin and his Merry Men in Sherwood forest twice. This movie wasn't about them and it goes out of its way to diminish them. The third act starts with the trial by combat for Robin Hood and turns into a full blown battle between Richard's (the Lionhearted) army and his younger brother Prince John's soldiers. The ending is a bit sappy and Hollywood, just what the movie going public would like to see.

I have to wonder, though, how it would have been received by the masses. Would they have accepted the Sheriff as the hero instead of the beloved Robin Hood? There was just a little something also reminiscent of The Name of the Rose...the whole detective thing.

Having read the article Batutta pointed out earlier, I was worried when it drew comparisons to CSI. They were fairly thin, though. I will say that some of the Sheriff's powers of deduction seemed a little advanced for the 12th century, though.

The script read easily and quickly after I got through the first act. There was MUCH LESS exposition after the first act, too. The hero of the story, Sir Robert Tornham, Sheriff of Nottingham, drove the action and resolved the story in this one.

I think for now, I'll stick with the Patrick Bergin Robin Hood as the best version I've seen (or read).
 
Blaine said:
I have to wonder, though, how it would have been received by the masses. Would they have accepted the Sheriff as the hero instead of the beloved Robin Hood? There was just a little something also reminiscent of The Name of the Rose...the whole detective thing.
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It could have very well backfired horribly, having such a legendary and iconic villain like the Sheriff of Nottingham as the hero, and turning Robin Hood, who is one of the most well loved heroes of all time into a villain.

It would be like a Star Wars film where Darth Vader was the hero and Luke Skywalker was the villain. At that rate, let's make Satan the hero, and Jesus the antagonist. A risky narrative choice indeed.

The Name of the Rose is a good flick by the way. I hope that one isn't remade.
 
I have to admit that reading the article I was intrigued by the idea of the story from the Sheriff's POV. I'm just not sure this would have successfully pulled it off. Then, again, we'll never know because the spec script that was bought wasn't made.

I am still intrigued with this idea and may very well pursue an alternate look at history if I can find the proper subject.
 
Blaine said:
I have to admit that reading the article I was intrigued by the idea of the story from the Sheriff's POV. I'm just not sure this would have successfully pulled it off. Then, again, we'll never know because the spec script that was bought wasn't made.

I am still intrigued with this idea and may very well pursue an alternate look at history if I can find the proper subject.
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There was a spec script that sold not that long ago called Galahad. It had Sir Galahad as the hero protecting Camelot from a corrupt Guinevere or something along those lines. It was a really hot script at the time from what I've heard.
 
Nektonic said:
let's make Satan the hero, and Jesus the antagonist. A risky narrative choice indeed.
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Not even close to how impossible it would be to make a movie about the second world war from Hitler's perspective.

Or a movie about an active child molester.

Satan is pretty mild and loved compared to nazis and pedophiles.
 
Zak Forsman said:
Downfall

L.I.E.

Oh God, You Devil (your'e right, pretty mild)
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Well Downfall was about the last days in the bunker, right? I mean a story covering the why the Germans would start another world war and try to take over the world and how they did it.

I haven't seen L.I.E.
Is it about a protagonist who willingly molests children?
 
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