Rendered footage appears to still be interlaced?

Muffinking

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Hey guys. I'm new here. I hope this question hasn't been asked. I did some searching around and I visit this site regularly. I'm honestly very confused as to what is going on with my XHA1s footage.

Ok, quick rundown. I shot a short movie in Canon's 24f mode, which, I have read, is not natively interlaced footage. (I've actually heard it is, it isn't, and back and forth again, haha). I guess technically 24f uses interlaced fields or something or other to make a progressive image (i.e. black magic). But, from what I read, the video captured in the 24f setting should be actual, progressive video. Anyway, I edited everything together in Premiere Pro CS4 (In the HDV 1080p24 project setting), and then I rendered it out of Premiere so I could give the picture lock to the guy who was making music. I exported it as 720 by 480 footage and set the "field type" to progressive.

So, I was looking at the footage in a few different media players, one of which was VLC. And I noticed that the footage looks interlaced. I also noticed that while scrubbing through the video in premiere, the footage appears to be interlaced. I grabbed a couple frames and I've attached one here. It's not hard to see the horizontal lines running through his face.

My question is: What am I doing wrong here? I know a fair amount about cameras/NLEs, but one thing I never really understood was all that pull down stuff. Is there some sort of an issue with that? I've researched this to death and it sounds like you don't have to mess with pull down in this situation...but maybe I'm just overlooking something.

Any help is greatly, greatly appreciated. Sorry for the long post. Thank you, guys.

It also might be worth noting that not every frame I grab looks like this. These weird ones are kind of scattered throughout...
 

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If you shot 24f in HDV, there is no pulldown to mess with. The files should read 23.976 in Premiere. That's how they're recorded to tape.
If you shot 24f in DV, there is pulldown, but Premiere will automatically remove it if you open it in the correct project.

I would go back and check everything again. Project settings, capture settings, etc. If you click on a file in Premiere's project window, it will tell you the frame rate.
If you playback a tape in camera it will tell you how it was shot. (24f, 30f, 60i, HDV, DV)
I would also try capturing some footage with HDVSplit. It has scene detect, which captures each clip separately. You should be using it anyway, much better than Premiere's capture utility. http://strony.aster.pl/paviko/hdvsplit.htm

Without seeing everything this is the best I can do. All I can say is that if I shoot 24F HDV, capture with HDVSplit, and open the files in an HDV 24F preset, there is no interlacing. Good Luck.

-Kevin
 
Thanks for the response!

Okay, so I can't actually play back the tape in camera as I don't have the camera with me, but I am about as sure as I can be that I recorded in 24f HDV. I looked at all the clips in Premiere. They read 23.976 with a 1440 by 1080 resolution. I did capture everything with HDVsplit by the way.

I did, however, figure something out. I incorrectly explained the problem. See, I ran into this issue about a month and a half ago and then just let it be while the music man did his thing, figuring I'd come back to it when I had to. Consequently, I remembered it wrong. After testing things out again, it seems that this interlacing problem ONLY happens while the video is being played in Windows Media Player. VLC looks fine. And it's exactly the same file... Premiere's playback even looks fine. I really could have sworn that wasn't the case, but eh, it appears to be. Sometimes my memory can be a little sketchy...

So, that's good news. I guess, then, my only question is why is Windows Media Player interlacing the video? I tried googling some things, but couldn't come up with anything of real value. If no one knows anything about this bizarre problem, I'll just swear of Windows Media Player forever. No hard feelings there, haha.

Thanks again for your response. I really appreciate it.
 
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