RED CAMERA Prelim. Specs

Resolution and needed soft/hardware?

Resolution and needed soft/hardware?

Is there anything on the market now that comes close to supporting this camera? What kind of monster computer? How about Blue Ray? Wow, wow, wow.... Is there a magazine/trade article on this camera published yet?
 
I love these discussions, so much intrigue and suspense, will they be cheap will they be expensive, what kind of lenses can I use, will it make me dinner? So many questions.
"Excitement hunh! Adventure, a jedi craves not these things."

I hope I can pick my own personal color, like cornflower blue.

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You can swallow a pint of blood before you get sick.

Hey, is this the forum for the lowenstein wedding? Barb, are you in here?
 
Here's something to ponder for those dreaming of a $5k - $10k price breakthrough for the RED camera ...

The Dalsa Origin is the only 4K camera currently available. The camera head RENTS for $3,000/day. With a set of 5 primes, a recorder, and other basic accessories it's about $5k/day.

BTW, anyone curious about the signifcant challenges of 4k image capture, data transfer, storage, and workflow should check out the Dalsa site http://www.dalsa.com/dc/index.asp

I'm not affiliated with Dalsa.
 
Personally, I'd love to see Fight Club 2, but that's just not in the cards. Perhaps is could be done on a 4K? Perhaps that might be the weapon of choice in the battery arsenal - we can only hope.
 
all this sounds very exiting. It's indeed a dream camera. As for the price... I doubt most of us will be able to afford it. It will be cool to see such a digital cam be realized. Most of us have even a hard time affording a HVX or H1. Can't imagine this RED badboy being anywhere near that pricerange. WISHFUL thinking.. of course. Everyone makes really good points here as I have read through this thread. It will definately drive up competition and that is always a good thing.... On a side note... I always like it when the underdog (small/startup companies/individuals) trumps the overwhelming corporations. Good luck RED.
 
Greg Lowry said:
Here's something to ponder for those dreaming of a $5k - $10k price breakthrough for the RED camera ...

The Dalsa Origin is the only 4K camera currently available. The camera head RENTS for $3,000/day. With a set of 5 primes, a recorder, and other basic accessories it's about $5k/day.
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That's the problem, you look at the prices of the Dalsa, Cinealta, Varicam etc. and that make you say "there's no way somebody can make a camera with this features for less money".

But when you make a list and try to find out what the parts of a RED camera actually cost you will be surprised.

The "big" cameras are expensive. But the people buying or renting these cameras don't care, it's just a small part of their budget. $6000 or $1000 a day? Who cares? They spend more money for feeding the crew.
 
But the people buying or renting these cameras don't care said:
That's a myth. Ask the rental houses. A producer who spends $20 mil on a star will at the same time often nickel and dime the below-the-line items to an extent that would surprise you. There is ALWAYS budget pressure, no matter what size the production may be. At the same time there is an expectation of perfect, reliable performance from the equipment.
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I was searching this thread and somebody mentioned the Foveon-sensors. On the Foveon site there is a link to the Hanvision cameras. Very interesting. Though they only shoot in SD (in higher resolutions they don´t get the framerates) they have an interesting feature: A nicon mount for photo primes. But the sensor is pretty small, rather 2/3" so there won´t be that big DOF-ahhh!!! But it shows, how the RED might look like: a black box where you can mount and plug everything you wish to add.

http://www.foveon.com/article.php?a=192

That brings up another question for a low-end user like me: Why can´t a Canon D5 shoot in VGA? For somebody who is just looking for 35DOF in SD that might be an alternative to a 35mm adapter.
 
i wonder what we are looking at as far as physical structure? will it be a handle cam like the dvx/vx/hdr/or gl seies cam... will it be portable or tripod only... i wonder what they will look like?.. when are these cams supposed to be released? and how much will they cost.. probably not cheap but please feel free to answer an of the questions i stated
 
I'm hoping it will be all black. Matte finish. Hard angles. Like a F117 stealth fighter. With the word RED stamped in but not colored at all. Maybe the external LCD data display could backlight in red. If it has one. Yeah I'm dreaming. :)
 
roxics said:
I'm hoping it will be all black. Matte finish. Hard angles. Like a F117 stealth fighter. With the word RED stamped in but not colored at all. Maybe the external LCD data display could backlight in red. If it has one. Yeah I'm dreaming. :)
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Or one of those paint jobs which looks a different colour depending on the angle you're looking at it. Black one way, very deep red another.

:laugh:

Only problem then comes with re-painting the camera at the paint and panel shop after years of being scratched and bashed around.
 
I've been following this cam on another site for some time and over there, Jannard made it quite clear that this cam would be afforable for small producers, so, my guess is that he and his crew are putting out a cam for around $10,000 to $15,000! It's just a guess but Jannard made it clear that the pricing would delight the video/film community.
 
This is the problem with telling people you're going to give them the world at an affordable price.

"Affordable" means different things to different people, and it always will.
A $50,000 Ferarri may be a more than fair price... but it's still not affordable to me.

I just hope people don't get dissapointed when the price is announced.
I know plenty of people who are hoping for a under 10K pricetag, and I just don't think that's realistic anymore.
 
In one of the statements I read from Mr. Jannard, the words, "High end HD user" was used. If this camera comes in for less than $50K, I would be very, very suprised.
 
I think he also said "disruptive technology," though. With the viper infinity coming in at around $20,000, I wouldn't be surprised if the RED camera cost only slightly more.

Which would be an amazing deal given the larger sensor (and presumably better dynamic range, etc.)

Jim has to shake up the market somehow and I don't see $50,000 doing that. The other players are just too well established. The camera would be somewhat "revolutionary" but not enough so to make cinealta owners say "oh screw it, I'll sell my devalued cinealta set up and buy a totally new rig from a no-name company."

I'm saying $25,000. Still way out of my price range, of course. I'm praying for under $20,000. I need to rent this thing for two weeks in a couple years to shoot a thesis, and I want it to be under $2,000 a week by then since I am not exactly well off.
 
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