RED 8K Super 35 sensor teaser

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http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?146890-RED-8K-S35

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Oh! I dig it in white.

s35 at 8K, what resolution does that translate to if you were to take the same photosite size and expand it to full frame?
 
If that's a picture of the actual sensor it looks like it has a 1:2.4 aspect ratio, making it a fair bit bigger than Super35.
 
Definitely not s35. I actually think I remember folks at RedUser saying it was closer to VistaVision.

But the big complaint from DPs in Hollywood is that Red is upping resolution but also changing sensor sizes so your previous decade of knowledge about what a lens will do on a location with s35 is no longer applicable. So definitely not s35.

That at white one must be for weddings ;)

Edit: just saw the text from the OPs screengrab saying s35 at 8k. So that gives me pause for doubt.

Second Edit: ok, just read the thread on RedUser. Wow. New sensor 8k at s35. I guess they are taking complaints about lenses and efficiency on set seriously.
 
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Grug said:
Why? There are plenty of cheap and cheerful stills lenses that do. Personally, I don't really see the point of these crazy high resolutions when we're still shooting 24fps with a 180 degree shutter - which basically makes 80% of our footage blurry and barely any 'K's at all.
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Most sensible thing I've read on any forum in a while
 
4K / 8K isn't all about resolution. Yeah, shooting with 180 degree shutter at 24 fps frame rate will result in blurriness. No big surprise. But better to do that with 8K than 4K or 2K. It's about color too. Downsampling from striped or bayer pattern cmos sensors. It's about geometric accuracy, smeared or not. It's about getting to what grain on film gave us. By getting greater "Ks" or sampling on the sensor strangely enough you're getting closer to analog.
 
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At a certain point something must have the greater resolving power. The sensor, the optics, the human brain. It makes sense to not have the sensor be the limiting factor.
 
8K on S35 means a pixel pitch of around 3 um, so, far from cameraphones (1 to 1.4 um) but also quite a bit smaller than DSLRs (4 to 6 um).
 
Speaking of color sampling and bayer patterns:

Can we have a three chip CMOS camera with a prism so that there is a 4K chip for red, a separate 4k chip for green, and again, another one for blue? I know this was done in the early cmos days, but it would be fantastic with today's larger and better sensors! Also, can we have interchangeable chip units with different ISO ratings? Like film. A 3-chip unit at 100ISO, another at 800ISO, and again another one at 5000ISO? And a set of daylight balanced and another set of chips that is tungsten balanced?

Throw a mechanical shutter on it and price it at 100,000. ;)

While we're at it, make it so that you can buy custom internal filter wheels so you can have one ND filter wheel, a pro-mist filter wheel and another polarizer filter wheel? Oh, and liquid cooling so no fans and weather sealed.

Make some internal motored lenses as the new open standard so that they can be controlled by the camera, and I'd say you have a dream camera...except it would probably be pretty big, huh? Or maybe not?

in the meantime, let me practice my operating and lighting skills. :)
 
Grug said:
Why? There are plenty of cheap and cheerful stills lenses that do. Personally, I don't really see the point of these crazy high resolutions when we're still shooting 24fps with a 180 degree shutter - which basically makes 80% of our footage blurry and barely any 'K's at all.
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I dont understand? 80% of the footage blurry and barely any K's?
 
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