Record uncompressed 14-bit (4:4:4) on your HVX200

Luis Caffesse said:
Barry, to be fair I think you might be discounting the fact that the film probably won't be finished until 2021. I would imagine HD-DVD and Blu-Ray penetration will be much higher then.
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No, because by 2021 they'll be in the dumpster right next to today's DVD players and yesterday's VHS players! :D
 
Barry_Green said:
No, because by 2021 they'll be in the dumpster right next to today's DVD players and yesterday's VHS players! :D
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Hmm, i don't know about that... DVD's have 16, 17 years of history, and are still going strong according to current sales figures... With uprezzing dvd players now common, I see HD DVD/Blu-ray penetration to have a very hard time to catch up (if they even do, with downloads being more and more popular..)

2021 seems optimistic for both the movie and its distribution :)
 
Perhaps, but I'm factoring in the compression of the Moore's Law cycle too. I mean, forty years ago someone would stay on the job for 40 years and retire with a pension; nowadays people change careers five to seven times in their working lives.

Used to be that a camcorder would come out every six years or so (PD150 lasted six years, and it was six years from the XL1 to the XL2) but nowadays camcorders are pronounced obsolete almost before they even hit the shelves. So I figure Blu-Ray and HD-DVD have maybe 18 months to three years of total shelf life before they'll be completely eclipsed by something else... :D
 
Barry_Green said:
Perhaps, but I'm factoring in the compression of the Moore's Law cycle too. I mean, forty years ago someone would stay on the job for 40 years and retire with a pension; nowadays people change careers five to seven times in their working lives.

Used to be that a camcorder would come out every six years or so (PD150 lasted six years, and it was six years from the XL1 to the XL2) but nowadays camcorders are pronounced obsolete almost before they even hit the shelves. So I figure Blu-Ray and HD-DVD have maybe 18 months to three years of total shelf life before they'll be completely eclipsed by something else... :D
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Scary thing is to think we'll all end up not doing film in a couple of years, but 4k videogames, seeing the likes of Beowolf and Avatar becoming more and more popular...

Its EXistenZ coming close to reality...:)
 
Barry_Green said:
Er, you do realize you just eliminated about 99% of the market then, right? Maybe, in a very optimistic world, you could say that 1% of American households have an HD-DVD or Blu-Ray player.


Okay, so that rules out about 90% of the market...
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Well than only 1% of people get the DVD.... I don't care. Less DVDs I have to make; not like I'm losing money..... If I make back 8 million in the box office I'm in the black.

And for tv.... we're going with HBOHD and ABCFamily HD.
 
Barry_Green said:
Used to be that a camcorder would come out every six years or so (PD150 lasted six years, and it was six years from the XL1 to the XL2) but nowadays camcorders are pronounced obsolete almost before they even hit the shelves. So I figure Blu-Ray and HD-DVD have maybe 18 months to three years of total shelf life before they'll be completely eclipsed by something else... :D
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This is a bit scary actually, isn't it?

I don't know what to think.
 
they've already announced the superHD spec which puts current HD, bluray & HDDVD to shame

but that's just the spec, it'll be another 3-5 years before the first prototype TVs come out, 7 until they're available
 
ChipG said:
Yea,



I know several people that have bought HVX's with the intent of getting the Hydra mod to shoot thier movies that are in pre production and are now scrambling to find another camera and are now to far down the list to get a RED in time.
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Count me as one of those people that got the HVX with the hydra in mind. I'm away from the dvx forum for a month and this happens? Bah!

Quite annoyed by this. Was hoping to get the hydra installed on my HVX next year.

Well, best of luck Juan.
 
Hydra looks like cool technology. But it appears to be a done deal unless someone with serious cashflow and business experience gets behind it. It sounds like everyone wants a higher resolution camera. Why not get a camera that will do what you want? Forget upgrading the HVX200 with "HYDRA." If you like the HVX200 wait for the next upgrade of it. It appears as though the subject of the Hydra is basically mute. Just my opinion.
 
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der4 said:
Hydra looks like cool technology. But it appears to be a done deal unless someone with serious cashflow and business experience gets behind it. It sounds like everyone wants a higher resolution camera. Why not get a camera that will do what you want? .
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I've got a camera that does what I want. The hvx. But the hydra meant that I could do more with the camera in the future.. it made the camera have a longer shelf life in my opinion.
 
The HVX is a nice camera. But it doesn't do everything I want. I don't want to double post so I won't go into details here. Perhaps it's time to ask for a new camera at a higher resolution for a reasonable price. To make sure I don't start the same topic on this thread check out "The Future of HVX" thread. We are calling the potential camera "Green One" after Barry Green because he gave us some excellent suggestions.
 
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