Re: T4i Specs

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Re: T4i Specs

So the leaked specs shows "SDHC, UHS-1 Compliant". Where is SDXC?

Also the T4i has a touchscreen, anyone know if this reduces the exposure on the LCD by 1-Stop similar to the NEX-FS100? Being touchscreen usually means it has an added layer on the screen.
 
It looks like they dropped the main feature I need from the list, the 3-10x zoom. I'm super bummed. The T3i with a 600mm lens (with 3x zoom = 2880mm equivalent focal length) was by far and away the best HD wildlife cam ever made with that function. I was hoping for an upgrade with the Digic5+, no aliasing and moire in regular video mode and a bit higher sharpness.

Here's hoping that it's actually still available and will be run through the touch screen rather than the old display button on top that is gone now. I'm really worried that I'll be stuck with T3i image quality for my long range work and just assumed that they'd keep that function as it's so incredibly useful.

The rest of the new features look great and would suit my uses really well.

Cheers,
Pete
 
I wonder about the touchscreen though; I usually use a viewfinder loupe for filming with a T3i - I can't imagine not using one in the light of the day, but then no access to the touchscreen...
 
I have been using the LCD VF loupe and it magnetically snaps on and off quite easily. I've been using it for over a year and it has been perfect. With the latest versions of Magic Lantern, I've been using focus peaking to keep focus on a stabilizer and to set focus with all my manual lenses. I've found it to be a much superior solution to the loupe and rarely use the LCD VF anymore. Who knows if there will ever be a Magic Lantern for the T4i, but if so, I've found that it renders the loupe less appealing.

Cheers,
Pete
 
* I hope the touchscreen functionality can be turned off
* I hope the all-I and IPB modes are there (nothing is said in the spec list, and the bitrate numbers match the old H.264 codec, not the new ones)
* I hope it has no aliasing/moire, 5D3-style (i.e. even if it means you have to add sharpness back in post)

I need to see a 650D-D3200 faceoff...
 
Currently having the T2i I had no reason to upgrade to the T3I, but if the aliasing/Moire is imporved wont the Digic 5+ allow for hd output while recording? Also whats the bitrate for the T2I recording because I'm wondering if it might be any better in the T4I.
 
I really cannot believe that it's still 720p 60fps. What year is this? 2008? Seems like Canon has an aversion to doing proper resolution. Even the $15K C300 only does half-res slow motion.

I understand they have to protect their higher ends cameras, but 720p 60fps in this day and age? Then again, none of their higher end cameras do proper slow mo. resolution, so what is there to protect? Even my wife's $300 Sony point and shoot does good 1080p 60fps

I just wish they would step up a bit and give people some essential features.
 
c3hammer said:
I have been using the LCD VF loupe and it magnetically snaps on and off quite easily. I've been using it for over a year and it has been perfect. With the latest versions of Magic Lantern, I've been using focus peaking to keep focus on a stabilizer and to set focus with all my manual lenses. I've found it to be a much superior solution to the loupe and rarely use the LCD VF anymore. Who knows if there will ever be a Magic Lantern for the T4i, but if so, I've found that it renders the loupe less appealing.

Cheers,
Pete
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But the issue for me is shooting outdoors in bright daylight, where the glare makes the lcd screen almost impossible to see without a loupe.

Still have not got around to using ML - have to give it a go sometime I guess.
 
gene_can_sing said:
I really cannot believe that it's still 720p 60fps. What year is this? 2008? Seems like Canon has an aversion to doing proper resolution. Even the $15K C300 only does half-res slow motion.

I understand they have to protect their higher ends cameras, but 720p 60fps in this day and age? Then again, none of their higher end cameras do proper slow mo. resolution, so what is there to protect? Even my wife's $300 Sony point and shoot does good 1080p 60fps

I just wish they would step up a bit and give people some essential features.
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It's a DSLR.
 
gene_can_sing said:
I really cannot believe that it's still 720p 60fps. What year is this? 2008? Seems like Canon has an aversion to doing proper resolution. Even the $15K C300 only does half-res slow motion.

I understand they have to protect their higher ends cameras, but 720p 60fps in this day and age? Then again, none of their higher end cameras do proper slow mo. resolution, so what is there to protect? Even my wife's $300 Sony point and shoot does good 1080p 60fps

I just wish they would step up a bit and give people some essential features.
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Which 720p is PERFECT for online......

People get caught up in the resolution game when there is a lot more to an image than that..... Many professional cameras only shoot 720p, heck people out there still shooting sd and with all of that said there are plenty of videos you can find online where 720p in the right hands can deliver an amazing image. 1080p 60fps would have been nice and I somewhat agree, but it's not that serious as amazing footage is still being shot with these cameras.
 
Canon dslr 720p has been worthless for anything. It is so soft that my old miniDV cams out perform it for sharpness :)

It will be interesting to see if they actually fixed it in this new cam, but I'm not holding my breath.
 
it's not that bad anymore with the 5D3, is it? the key here is whether the aliasing/moire is solved, 5D3-style
 
Does anyone know if the 3-10x zoom in video has actually been dropped, or whether it's still a feature on the 650D/T4i? Whilst it isn't mentioned in many of the specification lists it is listed on the Imaging Resource site specification list, look under "Optics", "Digital Zoom Values". However, I'm not sure whether this is a mistake because it's been copied and pasted from the 600D/T3i specs, or if it's correct.
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/canon-t4i/canon-t4iDAT.HTM
 
Is it worth selling the 7D for the T4i if there's been improvement on rolling shutter and moire? I'm assuming this being the 2nd generation DSLR with video, I'm assuming video will be improved overall.
 
if aliasing/moire are solved, I would definitely consider it an upgrade for all the old aps-c models, including the 7D

but that's still an "if": there's no info out yet on aliasing/moire on the T4i/650D
* the 5D3 solved these issues, the 650D should have them solved too
* but the 5D3 has all-I and IPB, and I've seen no mention about them on the 650D brochure (and the bitrate numbers match the old codec)
so: wait and see (and I'm looking at alternatives while I wait; I already ruled out the D3200 because of the aliasing/moire, and am currently looking into the 5N: that tiny little cam has been calling me for months...)
 
thelateshowwithsanjuro said:
Is it worth selling the 7D for the T4i if there's been improvement on rolling shutter and moire? I'm assuming this being the 2nd generation DSLR with video, I'm assuming video will be improved overall.
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I have the 3Ti, which is thhe same sensor.

I have the 4Ti on pre-order. I needed a camcorder with auto focus for run & gun type stuff. Hopefully teh 4Ti will solve that.

The silent lens with the IS designed for hand held video looks nice. As does the auto focus tracking on a spot picked on the LCD, or face. It seems to lag a bit at times, but it focuses with a pleasant, slow snap in, rather than hunting.

Definitely worth trying ourt for a $100 net cost (buy at $850, sell at $750.)

Aliasing, etc. yet TBD. But this camera is aimed squarely at video in a way that even the 5D3 is not (phase detection focusing built into the sensor for Live View, special video lenses, etc.)

This is the most info I have seen on video so far:

http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/samples/eos650d/player_I_can_fly_maiking/movie.html?high


Here are all of the videos - a second one with a "making of"too - and some still samples:

http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/samples/eos650d/

Michael
 
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