Rails system to mount FF with short lenses
- Thread starter CarPa
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I'm just getting a bogen quick release adapter with a long plate.
Slide that sucker out there.
Slide that sucker out there.
I'm still putting it togther. Right now Barry Green is violating my GH1 with a barrage of tests, so I don't have it, but I'm anticipating that even with a bit of a longer lens it would have trouble reaching the FF wheel. My solution is just to get a quick release assembly with a long plate.
Here's some examples of what I'm talking about:
Really long plate:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...Imaging_357PLONG_357LONG_Pro_Video_Quick.html
Quick release adpater assemblies:
adapter with short plate:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...en_Imaging_577_577_Quick_Release_Adapter.html
long plate for above assembly:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...ng_501PLONG_501PLONG_Quick_Release_Video.html
adapter with long plate:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...ogen_Imaging_3273_3273_Pro_Quick_Release.html
Some of these are discontinued /out of stock at B&H, but you get the idea and can search around which is what I'm doing.
Basically the idea is to just slide the camera forward on the rods so it meets the FF gear.
Here's some examples of what I'm talking about:
Really long plate:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...Imaging_357PLONG_357LONG_Pro_Video_Quick.html
Quick release adpater assemblies:
adapter with short plate:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...en_Imaging_577_577_Quick_Release_Adapter.html
long plate for above assembly:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...ng_501PLONG_501PLONG_Quick_Release_Video.html
adapter with long plate:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...ogen_Imaging_3273_3273_Pro_Quick_Release.html
Some of these are discontinued /out of stock at B&H, but you get the idea and can search around which is what I'm doing.
Basically the idea is to just slide the camera forward on the rods so it meets the FF gear.
For tripod sure.
For shoulder mount - If you can get used to that then OK. But unless you move the shoulder mount to the other side you can't see what you're doing. Plus if you ever want anyone else to shoot for you or with you that's going to be pretty disorienting. Especially since all LCD's flip out on the Left side of the camera.
Even on tripod I'm used to panning / tilting / framing with my right hand and focus / zoom / adjust settings with my left. Plus, as mentioned LCD is on the left side and now you'd have to stand on the right side of your camera and look over it at your LCD, or look over it to your follow focus rather than having them both on one side.
Ofcourse if you use the EVF, different story, but still awkward IMHO.
For shoulder mount - If you can get used to that then OK. But unless you move the shoulder mount to the other side you can't see what you're doing. Plus if you ever want anyone else to shoot for you or with you that's going to be pretty disorienting. Especially since all LCD's flip out on the Left side of the camera.
Even on tripod I'm used to panning / tilting / framing with my right hand and focus / zoom / adjust settings with my left. Plus, as mentioned LCD is on the left side and now you'd have to stand on the right side of your camera and look over it at your LCD, or look over it to your follow focus rather than having them both on one side.
Ofcourse if you use the EVF, different story, but still awkward IMHO.
I use it all the time with the shoulder mount on the right side of my 5d. It is actually MORE convenient because the record button and all the controls are on that side of the camera. Also the camera needs to be offset from the rails anyway for the eyeline (I use a microlink from Redrock), so I do see the FF just as easily. Besides this is the purpose of the new RR FF v2. Since it's marking ring is 3D I can see my marks from behind. I'mnot sure what you mean by a flip out LCD since this is a 5d M2 forum. As far as I am concerned all of this is simply a matter of changing one's habits a little bit...
Sorry forgot you guys couldn't do that like the GH1.
CarPa
Active member
Thanks Jack I'll try the long plate. I've several bogen 577 QR. If it fits in this QR as I can see in the pictures would be a good solution.
Yoclay, for now I use it like you said but another problem if I mount it on the right side is that I can't mount the mattebox (at least with RR ff v1 and RRmattebox)
can you with v2?
Yoclay, for now I use it like you said but another problem if I mount it on the right side is that I can't mount the mattebox (at least with RR ff v1 and RRmattebox)
can you with v2?
Cool Carpa, my problem is I have a 501 head, which take a smaller plate than the 577. So I may have to buy two assemblies - one to keep on my tripod and one top keep on my rails - in order to do everything I want to.
The solution to the mattebox problem is to create what I call "joiners". I find the whole cage thing too much sometimes, so for the tophandle or in your case the mattebox, I simply cut several 1 1/4" lengths from a set of rods which were too long anyhow (even 15mm wooden dowls will do) and use them to join these kind of supports together.
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Illya Friedman
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I designed the Hot Rod system (Patents Pending) to work with the 5D and other HDSLRs too. If this lens would have taken a MB and FF, I could have set it up, just like any other pro camera system.
Illya Friedman
Well-known member
Can you post or email me a picture. I'm sure I can solve this problem.
rails for short lenses
rails for short lenses
I was having similar issues with the short Zeiss Zf lens and I wanted the smallest set up I could find for a FF, handle and matte box.
So I put this together from a Cavision plate (cut- so it doesn't stick out in the front or back), and a Cinevate rail block and carbon rails (rails also cut down).
It allows the FF to slide back- right up against the body.
It's light and there is an extra hole on the plate so it screws right onto any tripod plate in 2 seconds
sorry about the crap iphone pics but I think it's clear enough to see the build.
df
rails for short lenses
I was having similar issues with the short Zeiss Zf lens and I wanted the smallest set up I could find for a FF, handle and matte box.
So I put this together from a Cavision plate (cut- so it doesn't stick out in the front or back), and a Cinevate rail block and carbon rails (rails also cut down).
It allows the FF to slide back- right up against the body.
It's light and there is an extra hole on the plate so it screws right onto any tripod plate in 2 seconds
sorry about the crap iphone pics but I think it's clear enough to see the build.
df
