Radically Less Expensive p2 Cards Announced
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puredrifting
Major Contributor
I believe that the card is included by Panasonic USA, not the retailer.
Dan
Dan
Exactly. But I don't see why not... it should at least be a 32GB at those prices.
dregenthal
Veteran
I would expect to see Panasonic doing this when the economy cards come available in number.
If you think about it they'll be able to put a 32 economy card in the box for less (cost to them) than the current 16.
Barry_Green
Moderator
Why are you guys thinking they'll put a 32GB card in the box? I would be shocked if they put anything other than a 16GB "E" series card in the box...
kecorcoran
Well-known member
Well, one would expect that if the price of the card dropped, either the price of the camera + card would drop as well or the package price would remain the same but size of the card would go up.
Otherwise it will seem to potential buyers (like me) that the cost of the camera is going up.
Kevin
puredrifting
Major Contributor
Or Panasonic could just not include anything in the box. They did that for quite a while on the 200. 300 and the larger models are not including any free P2 media.
All of that is promotional, not a standard operating procedure.
Dan
All of that is promotional, not a standard operating procedure.
Dan
Barry_Green
Moderator
Okay, yes, but... the card is a freebie that Panasonic throws in. A "starter" card. And no other division of Panasonic does that -- if you buy a 170 in Canada or South America or Europe or Japan or China or Singapore or India or New Zealand or anywhere else in the world, you don't get *any* card. Heck, you don't even get a card with the HMC150, and it uses cheap SD cards...
So yes, I would expect that Panasonic would substitute the less expensive card and keep the capacity and price tag the same. If they do otherwise, I would look at that as unexpected generosity on their part. They've always said that the free card is a limited-time promotion, so -- they could change the promotion, increase it, decrease it, or discontinue it. I wouldn't be surprised in the least if they kept it the 'same' by substituting a 16GB "E" series instead of the 16GB "R" series or "A" series.
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kecorcoran
Well-known member
Right, but "free card" is just marketing language. Really, we all know, there's no such thing as a free P2 card. The card has a value and Panasonic has priced the camera to include that.
As a potential buyer, I have a different point of view -- I just want to know what I can get for my money.
Jan has made some mention of a P2 rebate for new HPX300 buyers. I've been hitting refresh on all relevant threads looking for some clue as to whether the new 'E 'P2 cards will have an impact on the HP170X price/capacity equation, and if so, when.
I need to buy something -- HPX170 or EX1 -- in the next week or so. So I'm just a little bit anxious trying to evaluate all of the factors. If Panasonic doesn't plan to change the price/capacity of the HPX170 package, I wish Jan would authoritatively say so in one of these threads.
As a potential buyer, I have a different point of view -- I just want to know what I can get for my money.
Jan has made some mention of a P2 rebate for new HPX300 buyers. I've been hitting refresh on all relevant threads looking for some clue as to whether the new 'E 'P2 cards will have an impact on the HP170X price/capacity equation, and if so, when.
I need to buy something -- HPX170 or EX1 -- in the next week or so. So I'm just a little bit anxious trying to evaluate all of the factors. If Panasonic doesn't plan to change the price/capacity of the HPX170 package, I wish Jan would authoritatively say so in one of these threads.
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Take_1
Well-known member
OR ... you could just buy your 170(1) from here: DS Video like I did. Camera plus 2 x 32GB A series cards, and shoots both NTSC / PAL included in the price. Got mine for £3800.00 ($5,500 USD) The current price would be about $6200.00 USD. They are an authorized Panasonic dealer. I figured for the huge cash I would save going this route I could send the camera back a few times for warranty if I ever needed to. Highly worth considering ...
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Justyn
Veteran
Maybe all of the bitching about the price of P2 and those of us who switched because of it has made Panasonic thankfully switch thoughts. I had jumped to the 150 and got out of P2 cause of the record times and the expense of the cards. Now this makes so much more sense and will help to keep people in the P2 ranks for a while. If I had seen this coming I might have considered the 170 instead of the 150... but I can't say that I'm not stoked about the 150 and have put it up againt 170 footage with virtually no difference.
Kudos to Panny for listening and putting this media in line with other nonlinear media. Makes also thinking about the 300 much more tangible. That's some really good news for all concerned.
A64 gig card would be sweet at 40 percent of the price 3 months ago.
Kudos to Panny for listening and putting this media in line with other nonlinear media. Makes also thinking about the 300 much more tangible. That's some really good news for all concerned.
A64 gig card would be sweet at 40 percent of the price 3 months ago.
puredrifting
Major Contributor
Sell it now, not everyone has heard about the E series yet.
Dan
Dan
S.Reynolds
Member
It's also blu ray
Not Blue Ray
Blu-ray. You always start with a capital letter. Hooray for the cheaper cards!
singleframe
Well-known member
yeah, sell on eBay... but set a reserve!!
CW-35
Well-known member
I spent $2300 on mine but I am not feeling so bad about it. I have used it a bit and I have it now.
The new cards have just been announced, not available.
I will definitely buy the E series ones from this point forward.
pkendall
Well-known member
if i did sell it I'd sell it on Craigslist.. i live in NYC plus it's no fee.. my 16 gig card sold in a day... but I don't know if i'll sell my 64 gb card just yet.. I need it.. Will the A series usage be metered as well? does anyone know?
